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I've failed a triage audit for the 2nd time. Maybe I'm misunderstanding triage, but I treat them as if the only two good answers are "Looks OK" or "Needs Improvement". I will occassionaly vote to close, but 99% of the time I choose Looks OK or Needs Improvment, because - triage.

So, now the question I failed the audit for doesn't even exist: https://stackoverflow.com/review/triage/7621960

But I've been banned from reviewing for 30 days. What am I doing wrong? Am I misunderstanding the term triage?

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This was the question you were given to review:

tl;dr: he's soliciting volunteers for a project he's working on. He's not asking a programming question, or looking for help with a programming problem, or doing anything else that's on-topic for Stack Overflow. There's no salvaging this question, not by you, not by the author, not by anyone else. It's unsalvageable.

Am I misunderstanding the term triage?

Yeah, probably. I explain the meaning of the term in the introduction post, but the instructions in the queue itself are shorter:

You're separating questions into three buckets:

  • Into the first one go questions that can be answered straight away.
  • Into the second go questions that need work - perhaps a lot of work - in order to be acceptable.
  • Into the third go questions for which there is no real hope.

Now, here's the kicker: you have to have at least some idea of what the question is asking to put it in either of the first two buckets. If you can't understand it, either skip it or - if you find it unlikely that anyone will understand it - put it in the third category. Also good for the third bucket:

  • stuff that isn't a programming question
  • stuff that isn't a question at all
  • stuff that shocks the conscience

Never put any of that in the first two buckets. You can make a mistake here and there when it comes to identifying questions that are unclear or missing details or whatever, but if it is in no way shape or form a programming question then you can be damn sure it has no hope here - so put it out of its misery ASAP.

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  • This explanation is better than the current review help text. Perhaps that text could be enhanced with the information here. Apr 9, 2015 at 8:22
  • How do you find this explanation better than the current?
    – Shog9
    Apr 9, 2015 at 14:19
  • Your explanation makes it clear that a question that is at all salvageable belong in the second bucket, even if it would take a great deal of work to fix it up. Apr 10, 2015 at 4:56
  • "edits by the author... would result in..." -- why then send it to H&I queue? "If a question is unclear, or otherwise requiring clarification to be answerable, vote to close it immediately..."
    – gnat
    Apr 10, 2015 at 13:31
  • ...why not just change text to "edits by readers would" etc. Options I see in H&I queue suggest just that - readers are presented only with "Edit" and "Skip", and there's no trace of anything like "ping the author to explain what they need to change to make it answerable"
    – gnat
    Apr 10, 2015 at 16:02
  • So the short answer to that is simply that differentiating between "edits by readers" and "edits by author" is too nuanced a decision to be made in triage, @gnat. Is it sometimes possible? Sure. But expecting that decision to be made both quickly and accurately is doomed - ideally, that decision is made by topic experts. H&I throws a bit of a wrench into this by being currently the only effect of Should Be Improved, but it's certainly not the only potential effect. Working on guidance for both askers and answerers to augment this.
    – Shog9
    May 14, 2015 at 4:59
  • I understand. I think I even got the point of queues playing ping-pong. Idea looks rather beautiful but implementation appears uncomfortable for reviewers. Implicitly casting flags on their behalf and explicitly disputing these feels... counter-intuitive. Compare to recommend close from LQ queue, which didn't raise flags. Too much drama around explaining that disputed flags are painless (and will remain as such?)
    – gnat
    May 14, 2015 at 7:05
  • ...while we're at it, do "unsalvageable" Triage/H&I actions feed into close queue? if not, why?
    – gnat
    May 14, 2015 at 7:06
  • Can you please explain why stackoverflow.com/review/triage/27787972 should go in the 3rd bucket? (If that is the correct one?) Or if not, why 2nd bucket is wrong?
    – dagelf
    Dec 7, 2020 at 11:36
  • Why does it need an author edit, @dagelf?
    – Shog9
    Dec 7, 2020 at 16:04

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