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I understand that a user's reputation can't be less than 1. At least a new entrant begins with 1. However, what happens if an old folk loses so much that he now has a 'deficit'? Is there a system that monitors 'negative reputation' at the background and deducts the deficit when reputation appreciates?

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    Nope, you aren't affected by those downvotes (unfortunately, in many cases). Mar 24, 2015 at 19:02
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    Yeah. That is indeed an annoyance with 'member for today' bad questions. Mar 24, 2015 at 19:41
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    Can someone explain how this is consistent with the fact that when a user is deleted everything they ever voted for is changed back? I assumed that this meant that reputation is meant to be an exact sum of all votes (and other things that give rep) someone has received, in which case there would be a deficit.
    – Random832
    Mar 25, 2015 at 5:11
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    @Random832 If a user is deleted together with their votes, the reputation of affected users is recalculated as if those votes never existed.
    – user3717023
    Mar 25, 2015 at 6:40
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    the linked question is marked as duplicate of this one, shouldn't be the other way around? Dup message: This question has been asked before and already has an answer. Mar 25, 2015 at 13:14
  • @Random832: SO is not a zero-sum game; there is not a finite quantity of reputation being moved around the system: it is generated and annihilated on demand. You accidentally answered your own question by observing that it is a deleted users' votes that are undone, not the resulting change in reputation of the votant (although that is usually an inevitable indirect effect). Mar 25, 2015 at 17:52
  • Just thinking logically about things, if there hypothetically was a deficit to be paid back, don't you think they'd have designed the system to show the actual amount (ex: -10) instead of just leaving it at 1?
    – mason
    Mar 25, 2015 at 23:17

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You cannot go below 1. Ever.

There is no deficit either – you cannot lose reputation beyond one and nothing keeps score to deduct it later. We don't kick people when they are down nor do we save the kicks for when they get up again.

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    when you said "We don't kick people when they are down nor do we save the kicks for when they get up again", you just made the whole point appear so clear than a thousand lines might do. Thanks. Mar 24, 2015 at 19:09
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    @KyleStrand, you know, I can understand why you are glad and how you feel about this answer. It gives me the idea that "He that is down needs our compassion and not crucifixion". Those who designed this particular rule for SO were really thoughtful; and, I just can't stop pondering this answer also. Mar 24, 2015 at 21:26
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    Does this mean if the account that downvoted you was deleted you get extra reputation for free? It seems like SE is definitely in the business of "saving kicks" in one case. (I only lost 10 rep to a recent account removal, but I was shocked by the existence of this feature having read this answer earlier today)
    – Random832
    Mar 25, 2015 at 5:11
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    @Random832: what it says about the reputation system is that only votes from accounts that remain on the site ever count. There are exceptions made for accounts with a long history, good standing and a lot of votes, but those are extremely rare and meant to lessen the impact of removing an account that was obviously a significant part of the site.
    – Martijn Pieters Mod
    Mar 25, 2015 at 12:55
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    @Random832: I think you are fundamentally misunderstanding why you lost reputation through the deleted account. You were not downvoted. You were upvoted. That vote is now simply gone.
    – Martijn Pieters Mod
    Mar 25, 2015 at 12:57
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    And once again YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT. Why doesn't the effect of each vote also get recalculated, so that a vote that didn't cost any reputation at the time (because reputation was 1) can cost reputation now (because reputation no longer was 1 because a different downvote was removed)?
    – Random832
    Mar 25, 2015 at 12:59
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    @Random832: Please stop shouting and step back a little. There is no consistency here. You are misunderstanding what I am saying. Of course wether a vote hits the cap or not is also recalculated, that is what I am saying.
    – Martijn Pieters Mod
    Mar 25, 2015 at 13:02
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    @Random832: no, one kick was removed, as if it never happened. So you suddenly want the other downvote to no longer count? It did at the time! Account deletions for reasons other than moderation (e.g. removing fraudulent accounts) is rare, in any case, so those votes removed should not have been cast in the first place.
    – Martijn Pieters Mod
    Mar 25, 2015 at 13:12
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    @Random832: I disagree on that point. I think I'll leave it at that.
    – Martijn Pieters Mod
    Mar 25, 2015 at 13:17
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    I prefer my math associative and commutative.
    – EOF
    Mar 25, 2015 at 18:09
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    Based on my understanding of the conversation so far, @LightnessRacesinOrbit is saying that, with the current system, 1+5-2-2-2-2+5=6, and if two of those downvotes are removed due to a deleted account, you get 1+5-2-2+5=7. @Random832 on the other hand is saying that when two downvotes are removed from 1+5-2-2-2-2+5=6, you should get 1+5-2-2-2-2+5+4=10 instead. Right? Or was it more along the lines of 1+5-2-2-1-0+5=6 becomes 1+5-1-0+5=10? Honestly, I don't see a problem with either approach, though I think @Lightness's explanation of "it's like the votes never existed" makes sense.
    – Ajedi32
    Mar 25, 2015 at 19:09
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    @KyleStrand My point was that there are users that post total complete crap, over and over again. My statement was simply that they probably deserve a bit worse than we are giving them (though of course, a question-ban is usually forthcoming for such users.) In general I have no problem whatsoever with this policy/strategy Mar 25, 2015 at 19:37
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    @Random832 The closest to a "saved kick" that could come from a scenario involving a deleted user would be the following: (1) UserA upvotes one of UserB's posts. (2) One of UserB's posts is downvoted to oblivion, leaving UserB at 1 rep. (3) UserA deletes their account. (UserB's rep does not change, because rep can't go below 1.) (4) UserB gets some more upvotes. Mar 25, 2015 at 20:58
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    @KyleStrand: just remove the votes from the deleted account and replay the remaining votes in order, following the same rule that any vote that brings you past a limit (200 up in a day, or not lower than 1) is truncated.
    – Martijn Pieters Mod
    Mar 25, 2015 at 21:02
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    Go here: stackoverflow.com/reputation - notice the lack of "+1", "-10" etc events. Rep changes that are undone never happened as far as your rep score is concerned -- if they instead "did an opposite event", they would be recorded in that log. The pretty UI version of your rep does show you the "-10" on the current day, but that is a "lie we tell to children" to make the UI prettier. Mar 26, 2015 at 2:40

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