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Just came across this question, he was asking about something specific to a specific android app.

I told the OP (in a comment) that the question would be better placed on Android Enthusiasts & I also flagged the question with custom flag reason 'Should be moved to Android Enthusiasts'.

Minutes later, it was put on hold as off-topic, but with a message and a link to get help on Super User, which resulted in him asking the question there (it is now migrated), where it is also off-topic.


The problem is that the text under the 'On Hold' heading says:

This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:

  • Questions about general computing hardware and software are off-topic for Stack Overflow unless they directly involve tools used primarily for programming. You may be able to get help on Super User.

That link encourages new users to ask their question somewhere where it is not suitable.


It would be good if the text were reworded somehow, to inform the asker (and others) that there are options other than Super User also, as the text is somewhat obsolete, as it was written when sites like Android.SE did not exist.

And / or a drop down after selecting the Questions about general computing hardware and software are off-topic for Stack Overflow... close reason allowing us to pick any site would be nice.

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The comment about Super User is in the standard close reason.

Some of us are unhappy that it's there as it causes problems like this, but there hasn't been a consensus reached as to what it should be replaced with.

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    It would be nice if the comment about Super User could be (optionally) replaced with some other (custom) text when closing. Ah well.. Mar 16, 2015 at 22:10
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    Yes, it would be useful if I could refer people to other SE sites than the few listed (more easily)
    – Sobrique
    Mar 17, 2015 at 10:50
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    @Sobrique I believe the official policy is "no automatic delegation to beta sites," which is why so few are listed. Mar 17, 2015 at 14:13
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    Makes sense. Would be nice if there was a close-without-migrate for that scenario though.
    – Sobrique
    Mar 17, 2015 at 14:16
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    @Angew, Android.SE is not beta, so the question could have been moved there.. Mar 17, 2015 at 14:20
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    A drop down after selecting that option allowing us to pick any site would be nice. Mar 17, 2015 at 19:37
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    Srsly? It links to Super User in all cases? That's mental.... at least remove the link if you're not sure what other link to put in?! Mar 19, 2015 at 10:43
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    @Gabe: It won't happen. They even removed some options (e.g. Code Review) because it was apparently making it too easy for people to mis-migrate and that was a common mis-migration path (although I never really bought into that rationale, myself). Mar 19, 2015 at 10:44
  • Easy solution, link to the sites list instead. Let the asker find where it should go. Maybe give the people closing it the option to specify(without a link) a site. Mar 26, 2015 at 12:25
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    @JonathanDrapeau I've got a suggestion to that effect over on MSE.
    – user289086
    Mar 26, 2015 at 13:08
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This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:

  • Questions about general computing hardware and software are off-topic for Stack Overflow unless they directly involve tools used primarily for programming. You may be able to get help on one of the other StackExchange sites. Check the Super User, Programmers site(s).

Where Super User and Programmers can be changed by the people closing the question. It wouldn't be a link to avoid directing there but at least give a idea to the asker which site(s) their question might be on-topic. If none are recommended, nothing would appear after the link to the SE sites list.

Or to not let closer recommend any site, link to the sites list. I would prefer having the option to recommend but I can see why it wouldn't help in some cases.

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    please spare this text off Programmers, it's already abused enough. Recommended reading: What goes on Programmers.SE? A guide for Stack Overflow
    – gnat
    Mar 26, 2015 at 13:01
  • It's just an example. Those aren't links, they are the sites that people closing the question would recommend. The standard text wouldn't include it, it would be constructed with the recommended sites of people closing. If none are recommended, nothing would appear after the link to the SE sites list. Mar 26, 2015 at 13:02
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    Better not to mention any site by name,
    – ChrisF Mod
    Mar 26, 2015 at 13:11
  • Could be that way too, to avoid any mistakes by closers that wouldn't know where it would be on topic and recommend a site anyways Mar 26, 2015 at 13:12
  • "Stack Overflow can completely swamp us with "post this on Programmers.SE" comments and when even a fraction of those questions show up here (and get closed) it's problematic."
    – gnat
    Mar 26, 2015 at 13:13
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    If you are going to say that something is off topic, and they should check (an)other site(s), you will get the person posting on multiple sites - even if it is not on topic there and possibly all the other sites that are vaguely related (this happened last night where one person posted on SO and then was directed to post on CS, P.SE, and Workplace as other options because it was off topic on SO... and it was off topic on all the other sites too). Unless you can migrate it without comment, don't mention another site. Flag it if it is a good question for migration.
    – user289086
    Mar 26, 2015 at 13:14
  • Seriously, I love the idea of redirecting to the site list rather than a specific site, but please, just don't name any sites at all. Then it's as broadly applicable as possible.
    – Sam Hanley
    Mar 26, 2015 at 14:31
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    @sphanley The problem with telling someone "go somewhere else" is that when the question is poor quality to begin with and "somewhere else" also closes the question. Suggestions, flags and migrations should only be done when the question is of sufficient quality to not get closed. That no 'somewhere else' is specified doesn't mean that people will avoid using this for another 'too localized' or 'minimal understanding'. Care is needed to make sure that good and proper direction is given to the OP when the question is off topic that they aren't bounced around.
    – user289086
    Mar 26, 2015 at 16:22

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