My comments here are the result of three random events:
(1) This topic happened to be showing in the right-hand column and (2) I happened to notice it. The significance of this coincidence for me is that (3) I recently asked to have my account closed on another Stack for the very topic this thread is discussing.
In the last few years, I started seeing Stack Overflow showing up in my google searches whilst looking for answers to various computer/programming issues I was facing. I had changed the languages I was programming in and wasn't able to refer directly to the forums I used in the past.
Forum based search engines (vBulletin being an exception) have not impressed me, so these days I always use google as my starting point and the results lead me to Stack Exchange threads. Over time, I have developed a perception in MY mind that this was a good forum for answers. But I've also found that posting (ie contributing) in a Stack Exchange is a daunting experience.
From my google searches, I find posts marked as duplicates
or off-topic
way too often. These posts are marked so prominently that I feel its a demerit. This makes me uncomfortable and reluctant to participate. I don't spam and I do my homework beforehand, but I'm afraid of having overlooked a thread that happened to use different terminology to ask the same thing, or not be precise enough and leave room for opinions. I don't want my contributions annotated in such a way.
Why is google presenting me with the "Duplicated" thread instead of the 'master'? Or "Off-topic" threads in a Stack, when there are supposedly other places where they're discussed? It tells me there's something wrong in the way the forum is managed. Google doesn't use reputation, it uses hits, relevance, and other objective measures to determine its output.
My contributions are based on the issues I'm having at the time. If I open a question, I continue to do my research in parallel. If I find an answer before someone else offers one, I post it to close my own question. If I find an answer given that is incomplete, incorrect, or has changed over time, I provide the necessary updated information. (In fact the reason behind my request to have my account removed has so do an 'update' edit I did that was rejected by persons unknown to me.) I'll be frank and state that I don't scan the 'most recent' questions list or such like. Albeit Google is far from perfect.
The implementation of Reputation to control the quality of the content within the forum is misguided. It should not determine what you can and can't do. Reputation means reputation, not rank. And what Stack Exchange have implemented is a ranking system.
The manner in which the ranking system is implemented is counter productive:
- A new person to the forum can post an answer, but can't make a comment? Where is the logic in that?
- Anyone can edit a post another member makes, and if two other members accept the edit, the original author has no say it it (let alone be notified). Who determines the suitability and qualifications of the 'peers' who review proposed edits? What right do they have on the subject? Shouldn't the author have a say? Go figure!?!?
- Someone comes along and down votes your question/answer, without offering anything constructive...
- All this, yet you can't post a comment until you have 50 reputation..... It's not easy to attain 50 reputation points when you don't suffer from verbal diarrhoea or megalomania.
- To compound these Reputation problems, though your login details are transferable between Stack Exchanges, your reputation is not. So you can't make comments on other forums.
The reputation system is wrought with frustrations. In my opinion, the person who set out the specifications for the software didn't have enough foresight into its intended use and eventual implications. I think the OP is on the money in asking this question.
From what I gather, Stacks are about information and that should be the focus. Gamification belongs in games. It's been introduced into general marketing because marketing people are jealous of the behaviour patterns people exhibit when playing games and are trying figure out a way to make money from it. It doesn't work in the real world and only fools fall for it.
A Thank you button would suffice, and I would click it every time I benefited from the information. To inflate the your member's egos, you could post the number times thanked where their reputation currently shows. Personally, I would be happy to see who thanked me for what (and who I thanked) in my own profile panel.
Each thread could have a counter that shows the number of times its been visited (Robots excluded) to give an approximate indication of the popularity of the thread.
Within each thread, up/down votes on answers could be based on a weighting system say 100%. But this too detracts from quality and just hides the severity of down votes.
I'm sure others have more ideas on how things could be done to promote quality.
As for my contributions, your system has beaten them out of me. From here on in, I'm just a leech.