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Why should this question not be closed?

I got this as an audit, which I failed. I voted to close the question, as

  • It is not a programming question (ok, it asks for an algorithm, maybe it should go to Programmers?)
  • It shows no effort to solve this issue at all
  • It isn't very clear without the comments
  • (It smells like homework, as stated in the comments)

Usually I would just skip over the failed audit when I'm convinced that I am right in my decision. However, I recently failed a lot of audits I strongly disagree with (usually in the Triage queue), so I decided to start disputing them.

  1. What do you think? Am I wrong in my assumptions? Why is this particular question a candidate for an audit?
  2. Is there some better way to dispute audits then on meta, i.e. without using the meta-effect?
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    in reopen and close audits, single vote down or close would suffice to Bring a “human factor” into review audit composition/selection so that these stop bringing next reviewers in trouble
    – gnat
    Commented Feb 2, 2015 at 11:20
  • Dollars to donuts that this question was hand-picked to be an audit post. It was a problem posted at a contest. For programmers, not accountants or coffee drinkers. This is what scares me about the Triage queue, it will just produce bone, no meat left. Commented Feb 2, 2015 at 11:35
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    Why exactly is the cited question off-topic? Commented Feb 2, 2015 at 14:27

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Let's take your objections in turn:

It is not a programming question (it asks for an algorithm)

Algorithmic questions are on-topic for Stack Overflow. Algorithms are even cited in the Help Center/On-Topic article.

It shows no effort to solve this issue at all

Lack of effort is not a valid close reason.

It isn't very clear without the comments

On the clarity scale, I'd say it probably ranks in the top 5% of all questions asked on Stack Overflow, so maybe you just don't understand the question or don't have the necessary background knowledge.

It smells like homework

Homework questions are allowed on Stack Overflow.

It belongs on Programmers

No, it doesn't. Even if it did, that's not a valid reason for closing a question.

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    Lack of effort has never been a prerequisite for asking questions on Stack Overflow. The help center says otherwise. One of the very first things mentioned in "how to ask" is that questions should be well researched. I could also see the question being closed as Too Broad, given that it's a requirements dump asking for a full solution (Although I'm on the fence on whether it crosses the line).
    – Servy
    Commented Feb 2, 2015 at 15:21
  • Yes, but lack of effort is not a close reason, nor is lack of research (although it is a downvote reason). No close reason means it's not a requirement; it's a suggestion. Commented Feb 2, 2015 at 15:35
  • I'm well aware that it's not a reason to close, but that's not what your answer says. It should probably say something like, "lack of effort is only reason to downvote a post, it is not a reason to close it" or something like that.
    – Servy
    Commented Feb 2, 2015 at 15:38
  • The mechanics are not important. Prior research or demonstration of effort is not a requirement for asking questions on Stack Overflow, and never was. Note your use of the word "should" in your comment above, not "must." Commented Feb 2, 2015 at 15:40
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    While true, it's a pretty strong should. We don't want questions like that asked here, to the point that we actually rate-limit/ban people from asking questions if they start to ask a lot of questions with those problems. That section of the answer is, if not incorrect, at least incomplete. Rather than saying, "it's not a problem" it should really just say, "closing isn't the right way to deal with questions with that kind of problem, voting is". While "effort" isn't technically a mandated requirement; we work very hard here to get rid of (or improve) low quality questions.
    – Servy
    Commented Feb 2, 2015 at 15:48
  • @Servy: Better? ... Commented Feb 2, 2015 at 15:53
  • Yes, that's better.
    – Servy
    Commented Feb 2, 2015 at 15:56
  • Well, thanks for the clarifications... So in a nutshell: it is a bad question, but technically okay - I should vote it down, but not close it. Commented Feb 2, 2015 at 16:10
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    I don't even think it's a bad question. Compare it to the endless parade of highly-localized, under-specified troubleshooting questions that we get all day long; questions that are usually only of interest to the person asking them. Commented Feb 2, 2015 at 16:14

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