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To me this just doesn't make sense or really in the inverse it does make sense but it just doesn't seem to be adhered to in any way.

The objective here seems to be to spawn off another Stack Exchange site in order to keep the "domain" topics "on-topic" for a particular subject. I think this is right but there is a clear problem here.

People still keep asking the "off-domain" questions on Stack Overflow. And Okay, that is inevitable and I would not expect that to stop. There are migration options and there are close options and that should be fine right? After all there is the fair option to use them.

But in reality they basically never get used. At least I see heavy usage cases where they never get used and mostly by the legacy people who hang around expecting to answer "non-programming related questions".

One of those things where I don't see easy answers because you cannot "police state" people into doing something ( or at least it's not a really palatable idea ). But at the same time it seems to operate to the antithesis of the goal.

Should there really be these separate domains? It seems to make sense. But if even the higher reputation users here refuse to use them in favor of staying on their Stack Overflow account and that goes without question, then that seems counterproductive.

It would be nice to see a productive approach or strategy to working towards the separate domain logic. Or in lieu of that, a reasonable argument to just keep it all in the same place.

Trying to make sense of it all.

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    So you would have cooking, DIY, gardening, English usage, etc. etc. questions all asked on Stack Overflow? I don't know about you but that would make me hand in my diamond and quit the site.
    – ChrisF Mod
    Commented Jan 20, 2015 at 14:06
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    I haven't downvoted (yet, at least), and I have read the question. Now I have a question myself: What are you talking about? Examples? Commented Jan 20, 2015 at 14:06
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    I wouldn't say everyone asks on SO, the other sites get plenty of questions, etc otherwise they wouldn't survive.
    – Taryn Mod
    Commented Jan 20, 2015 at 14:07
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    @NeilLunn - ah. In that case can you point to any examples that haven't been closed in short order?
    – ChrisF Mod
    Commented Jan 20, 2015 at 14:08
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    Please just edit the question to include links to a few example posts that you feel illustrate your point.
    – user
    Commented Jan 20, 2015 at 14:09
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    So many generalisations, so little actual proof. Commented Jan 20, 2015 at 14:12
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    Delete closed questions faster than 60 days, then compare how those enabling these questions by answering and sitting pretty on +3 upvotes react
    – random
    Commented Jan 20, 2015 at 14:15
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    @NeilLunn: Yet I disagree that it happens all the time. So it is your word against mine now, and until you come up with some concrete examples, there is no point in having a discussion at all. Commented Jan 20, 2015 at 14:16
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    @NeilLunn: that's what everyone is asking you to do, add concrete examples that illustrate what you are talking about. Commented Jan 20, 2015 at 14:21
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    @Neil You posted a rant with no examples (even if that's not what you meant). What do you expect?
    – Seth
    Commented Jan 20, 2015 at 14:21
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    Isn't this just a rant-styled continuation of Off-topic issues that should be migrated ?
    – mario
    Commented Jan 20, 2015 at 14:22
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    @NeilLunn As a moderator on the DBA site I can tell you we do get a decent number of migrations. Does every qualified Q get migrated to DBA? Nope. Does every garbage question on SO get closed? Not by a long shot. But we don't reject them if they get sent over. There is a bit of overlap between the sites for sure. However, there is a benefit to having a Q looked at by a smaller group of domain experts, especially w/r/t signal to noise ratio.
    – JNK
    Commented Jan 20, 2015 at 14:27
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    So, instead of providing some examples to illustrate what you're saying in the question (rant), you just tell "us" we lack a certain measure of intelligence. Way to go.
    – Cerbrus
    Commented Jan 20, 2015 at 14:27
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    So Instead of asking a good question you decide to insult my intelligence? Your choice. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt until now.
    – Seth
    Commented Jan 20, 2015 at 14:28
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    What are you talking about?, you posted your generalization of an issue that many here haven't experienced with no proof whatsoever other than "I've seen it and it happens all the time!". People have been asking you to edit your question so it's less a rant and more an objective issue.
    – Lamak
    Commented Jan 20, 2015 at 14:28

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Speaking as a moderator on Database Administrators and a heavy lurker on Stack Overflow, I can tell you that a lot of questions are considered for migration, but many simply don't make the cut. I can't speak for other non-trilogy sites, but we do try to maintain high bars for both quality and complexity. So some questions won't get migrated because they're basic SQL programming questions or they're just not good enough. We also try to prevent questions like "can't ping my server" and questions we can't authoritatively answer with any confidence, such as licensing questions.

Many people find Stack Overflow simply due to critical mass. I often spot questions there that would be a perfect fit for our site, but that doesn't necessarily make them off-topic on SO. In a lot of cases that I have seen, when it's been suggested the question be moved to dba.SE, the response has been that they had never heard of it. These are usually newer users, and often the question quality isn't quite there, but it has happened with really good questions, too.

Mostly, though, at least from my observations of questions that might try to get migrated, it's that the question isn't good enough to belong anywhere else, either. A terrible question here is not going to be migrated because what good is giving someone else a terrible question to deal with? For some background on what we're trying to avoid, see:

In most cases they'll just reject the migration - so it's a bunch of work moderators have to do, time they could have spent answering meta questions questioning the usefulness of having more than one site.

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I don't think it's like that. There are some overlaps in on-topic fields (for instance, programming softwares and tools are on-topic on both Stack Overflow and SuperUser), but by no means that means that we accept any question asked on general computing on Stack Overflow.

Just because you haven't had the chance to use them doesn't mean they aren't being used.

If an off-topic question gets asked, close/migrate/flag it. I don't understand what the problem with that is really...

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    There is no problem, really...
    – Cerbrus
    Commented Jan 20, 2015 at 14:16

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