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By now for the question to receive a lot of upvotes it must touch a popular topic. There's of course nothing wrong with it, but it drives SO into a site dedicated to noob audience. There's no fun to answer less popular questions, because such question has low views, so it does not have chance to receive a lot of upvotes if any. Such answer is seen as "worse" one by a system, even if it perfectly explains problem and is beautifully written.

IMO it would be good if questions and answers were rated using votes/view ratio. This could be additional mechanism to normal reputation system that could be interpreted as quality of the answer/question, while the standard one can be interpreted as significance. For example if question has 10 views and 5 upvotes it has 0.5 ratio, meaning it is a high quality question. Another question may have 100 views and 20 upvotes, so it it more significant but of less quality (0.2 ratio). Same with answers. This can bring fun to answering less popular questions and highlight question which are good, but from different perspective than purely popularity based one.

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    Perhaps you should try to answer because you can help, not because you get upvotes?
    – Martijn Pieters Mod
    Nov 23, 2014 at 2:20
  • @MartijnPieters then why upvotes exist? If you should answer because you can help, not because you get upvotes then why they exist? It's of course for fun and IMO there's no fun if good question/answer is seen as worse by a system only because it does not touch popular topic.
    – mip
    Nov 23, 2014 at 2:23
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    @doc: to rank answers relative to one another, within the context of the question. If you are here for upvotes, then stick to popular topics.
    – Martijn Pieters Mod
    Nov 23, 2014 at 2:23
  • @MartijnPieters and to rank questions. So my proposal is to rank them from different perspective. No I'm not here for upvotes.
    – mip
    Nov 23, 2014 at 2:24
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    @doc: when comparing questions, compare them within a tag then. But even there that's comparing apples to pears as posting time (day of the week, hour of the day, major holiday somewhere in the world or not) all influence how a question is received. There is little point in trying to make such comparisons, as views can vary widely for an even wider range of factors.
    – Martijn Pieters Mod
    Nov 23, 2014 at 2:29
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    This sounds very similiar to Reddit's "fuzzing" system, and I don't think it should be implemented in SO.
    – user3920237
    Nov 23, 2014 at 2:37
  • @MartijnPieters sorry but I don't undestand you. To me if question receives many votes I look at it as it is possibly interesting. Same with answer. It is an indicator of some kind. Additional indicators can bring additional perspective. Of course it may depend on the day of the week or even weather, but it's not to measure things with a precision of 1000 decimal places.
    – mip
    Nov 23, 2014 at 2:40
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    @doc: yet you are proposing that reputation earned becomes a direct function of the view count. I am saying that a view count is not something you can rely on to carry any meaning. Which is why we stick with reputation coming from votes only. Much simpler, works just fine.
    – Martijn Pieters Mod
    Nov 23, 2014 at 2:43
  • @MartijnPieters views/votes ratio does not depend on the view count! That's why it can measure quality of the question rather than standard system, which rewards questions with higher view count (more views = higher chance to receive vote).
    – mip
    Nov 23, 2014 at 2:47
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    @doc: come again? How does a views/votes ratio not depend on the view count? The ratio is meaningless without the views part.
    – Martijn Pieters Mod
    Nov 23, 2014 at 2:48
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    @doc: and there is another downside to your proposal: all the rep whores will flock to the low-view-count tags, flooding those with crap, as a vote there counts for more rep than popular tags. Only, there won't be as many people vetting those low-quality answers in low-view-count answers, so the quality levels go down.
    – Martijn Pieters Mod
    Nov 23, 2014 at 2:50
  • @MartijnPieters the same way as velocity does not depend on the path that you travelled. If you compare speed of two cars you don't take into account the path they travel, even if path is a part required to measure velocity.
    – mip
    Nov 23, 2014 at 2:56
  • @MartijnPieters I was thinking of making this feature as additional to normal reputation system. It would work just as another perspective. If it's hard to implement then I understand it's bad idea. Thought it's relatively low cost.
    – mip
    Nov 23, 2014 at 2:59
  • @doc "This can bring fun to answering less popular questions" It seems that your premise is that most people don't find answering less popular questions to be fun, and that this is a problem. I think this premise is fundamentally flawed (both parts of it). However, if you are the type of person that only has fun answering popular questions, then the easiest solution is to just only answer popular questions. There will be others who have a different idea of "fun" to fill in the gaps that you don't want to fill in. Both views are fine and work together without issues.
    – Jason C
    Nov 23, 2014 at 4:31

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Questions and answers with high upvotes are not "better" than those with low votes. They're more useful. The fact that answers to common questions in popular tags are useful to a lot more people means that they deserve more upvotes. If you only answer questions in the tag, you're not going to be able to compete on reputation with people answering in the or tags. That's why each tag has a leader board.

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  • Devil's advocate (because I don't really support the proposal): You could argue that a higher vote:view ratio means "more useful", though. For example, a very low vote:view ratio with high views might mean it's a very common problem but was not a great solution (or a great question) - i.e. it's highly misleading. On the other hand a high vote:view ratio with a low view count could mean it's a great answer to an uncommon problem. You are describing "more people = more useful", but "more relatively useful for a specific topic" isn't unreasonable. I definitely don't like the proposal though.
    – Jason C
    Nov 23, 2014 at 4:02
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    @JasonC "more relatively useful" is not the same thing as "more useful." If not very many people find something useful, then it's just not very useful. Nov 23, 2014 at 4:09
  • Yep it can be called usefulness and I'm not denying this. How much do I need to repeat that I was thinking about this as additional feature. Just like leader board exists and I don't care (it's useless for me, but maybe useful to someone else). And your points are one way to look at it. Another way to look at it is that beautifully written answer or great question, but for narrow audience, deserves high rating too.
    – mip
    Nov 23, 2014 at 4:11
  • @doc Perhaps it does. But "to deserve" and "to get" are very different things.
    – user3717023
    Nov 23, 2014 at 5:49
  • Even within many tag leader boards, it is currently hard to compete with spurious highly popular question answerers. See this thread: Can the list of Top Users for low(er) traffic tags be improved? Sep 18, 2018 at 18:18
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By now for the question to receive a lot of upvotes it must touch a popular topic. There's of course nothing wrong with it, but it drives SO into a site dedicated to noob audience.

That is not true at all. The general notion is that the more useful something is, the more upvotes it will receive. So of course something that appeals to a wider audience will be more useful to more people. By definition, something that is niche will be less useful to most people.

However, this site has hundreds or thousands of users who are professionals/enthusiasts/experts in the popular tags. They are not isolated to only niche tags, and niche tags aren't always full of high quality questions/answers. The site already has facilities to benefit answerers of niche tags. Bounties are one of those ways.

If you're only on here to gain rep, then feel free to post answers in one of the more popular tags. Otherwise, consider realigning your goals and posting useful answers because you want to contribute to the site.

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    I'm not here for reputation, but somehow current system discourages me from providing answers to questions with low views. It's probably something with human psychology. System gives you a feeling that answering specific, very technical question is like "no one cares". The impact on SO is that some questions that could have answers don't have them. I think that paradoxically perception of the whole site usefulness is related to those niche questions. Just like hospital seems to be useful not because it can cure 1000 people with flu, but because it can cure 1 man with very rare disease.
    – mip
    Nov 23, 2014 at 4:44

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