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This may be one of the most common quandaries I have when looking through Stack Overflow questions, when the author has written an obviously off-topic but genuine question such as

Windows Forms Application Classic Interface c#

I want c# windows form applications but i don't want use classic butons, classic forms element etc. I want use more efficiently, more simple more elegant more impressive interface elements. Do you know any free library in this subject? Thanks a lot...

I often leave a comment on the question advising that Stack Overflow is not for opinions/advice...

Is it appropriate to try and help them out and advise them to ask in the chat rooms, or if you go to www.example.com you will find information, or should you simply not engage in helping, as that is potentially teaching the author that "yes I may be down-voted, but at least I will get my answer in some way".

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What you should do:

  • cast a down vote
  • vote to close (flag to close if you're under 3K rep)
  • comment and explain why their question is bad and how to fix it, use the tour, the help, maybe even a chat session

Don't ever answer an off-topic question, not via chat, comments, or any other way. It is even dangerous to say: go here, Google for that, because next time, they will do the exact same and eventually get what they want.

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    @vba4all to me, summer of love wasn't an obstacle in doing as explained here; I politely voted down, close and wrote comments explaining what's wrong with the question
    – gnat
    Nov 12, 2014 at 13:25
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    @gnat: That is the point indeed. Downvoting isn't rude, but is often interpreted as such. Nov 12, 2014 at 13:26
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    "downvotes are taken so damn personal..." :)
    – gnat
    Nov 12, 2014 at 13:28
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    I do all that but still occasionally I give a hint how to solve the problem (not a full blown answer of course) because I see a spark of light somewhere in the rubbish which other SO users tend not to see or because I'm just a good man. And I'm immensely proud about it. Call it pity or whatever. Does this good or bad to SO? I don't know. Sometimes people improve and the second question is already better than the first one and a nice treatment might be good for something. It's not so clear as many people believe it is.
    – Trilarion
    Nov 13, 2014 at 9:47
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    @Trilarion: I agree with you. But trowing a hint isn't an answer. If you comment 'Read up on feature X of Y', then you encourage OP to do his own work before coming here. Nov 13, 2014 at 12:42
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    I feel like there are those who live their entire lives by finding others to answer questions for them. Refusing to enable them to use this site might have noble intentions but it isn't going to stop them from going on that way. In fact, they will in many cases simply be to ignorant to "properly" ask, and never find out. I suppose competitiveness can be a good thing if it encourages people to go beyond the call of duty in making great answers, but it seems terrible if it perpetuates mass stupidity (even among those you deem as 'vampires' because they lack your problem-solving skills). Nov 14, 2014 at 3:10
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    As long as it helps the question, no problem. If it is to get someone an answer who posted when knowing it is off-topic, not okay. @Jason Sep 3, 2015 at 19:26
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    I would argue that the off topic police are too quick to shutdown the questions in many cases when valid technical assistance can be offered. It would be far better to come up with a clear description on how to compose questions the right way and have an automatic way to point people to this information when their question is asked in a way that promotes unhealthy debate.
    – Jason K.
    Sep 3, 2015 at 19:32
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    @Jason agree with your last part, but what more can we do? People don't read the help, don't follow the tour, don't want to read proposed duplicates. This has come up many times on Meta and no one seems to have found the solution. Sep 3, 2015 at 19:33
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    @Jason feel free to work it out in a proposal here on Meta. Don't forget to point me to it, would love to read it. Sep 3, 2015 at 20:04
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    I would recommend against referring people to Meta for proposals as the social community here seems broken. I got many down votes long before getting any constructive feedback and was told how I simply did not understand. I was also called an idiot by a significant contributor in my attempts to outline the proposal. That is not somewhere you want to send people if you want their input.
    – Jason K.
    Sep 3, 2015 at 23:06
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    @Jason: If you just cry "We should make things better", people on meta will say "sure, propose something", and that's to be expected because we know nothing is perfect. If you start an open question asking for proposals to make things better, that's obviously useless: Post a FR like anyone else who has a bright idea, we don't need a question for collecting all of them. Your last / only visible post was justly shot down for a simple reason: You proposed implementing a system which exists, and had nothing new to offer nor would deign to acknowlege that. Sep 6, 2015 at 22:25
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    @user1361991: If it's off-topic, it's off-topic. It doesn't matter who posted it. Dec 4, 2015 at 15:04
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    Why not? It is one of the official downvote reasons. Jul 15, 2017 at 19:17
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    @user1361991 - Flag the question for migration to an appropriate site in the Stack Exchange network. Then, answer the question at its new home. The strategy avoids off-topic questions on Stack Overflow, and provides the answer for future visitors on an appropriate site.
    – jww
    Dec 15, 2017 at 12:49
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If the forum designers really agreed wholeheartedly with the accepted answer, they would stop applying negative rep to downvotes. So my inference regarding the desired behavior (based on the reward system): cast a close-vote for off-topic or request for out-of-SO resources. I perhaps comment as to the reason, but often rely on the text of the close-vote dialog to do it for me.

Separate issue admittedly: Low-quality questions often get a comment telling them to: "Use SO's [edit] facilities to put a [MCVE] in the body of your question so it won't get closed as 'vague'".

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    I bet they would be happy to have it totally free (and not only limited to community-wiki) - but they have to keep it only as a measure against tactical-downvoting. Currently rep deduction makes it a luxury available only to very high rep users but if anyone with 125+ rep could have it, we would see a lot of weird things happening
    – gnat
    Jul 26, 2018 at 8:18
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Stepping way out on a limb here, but I do see value in answering an off-topic question. Stack Overflow has a mechanism for removing off-topic questions; the down vote. It brings the question to experienced users attention, and they can quickly deal with it as need be.

However, in the spirit of "No press is bad press", one may consider people coming to Stack Overflow as the first place to seek guidance as a shining example of why it works so well. The network with the most nodes has the most value. People are the nodes of the Stack Overflow network.

If anything, Stack Overflow needs to get better at guiding people to search for answers first. But there is no shame in asking a question after spending a reasonable amount of time searching. Many people aren't great at searching, and not knowing the correct English words probably hinders a great many users (I wonder what is the ratio of non-English speakers to duplicate questions?).

I know that duplicate and off topic questions are annoying but with so many monitors and with the safeguards put in place, I don't experience much difficulty separating the wheat from the chaff when seeking information.

And in the end, isn't Stack Overflow's main goal to help people get better at programming (much more relevant than getting better at asking relevant questions)?

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  • The question does not really mention answering though, only giving advice and even specifically highlights doing so in a comment.
    – Gimby
    Jan 11, 2018 at 8:14
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    main goal to help people.. -> "You have it backwards, I think..."
    – gnat
    Jan 11, 2018 at 11:48
  • @gnat, well, if you buy into the link you provided, you wouldn't agree with my points. But that is also a highly contentious debate; clearly there is more than one purpose to SO. What is the "main purpose" isn't exactly helpful, since all purposes have value.
    – Sablefoste
    Jan 11, 2018 at 12:25
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    I know this is being added many years after the initial post, but I wanted to say that Stack Overflow's purpose is not to be a code writing or homework doing service. There are many people who come here and post code that they have no knowledge about because the copied it from somewhere else and they want us to fix it for them. Stack Overflow may be many things, but it is not a tutorial service. Jun 17, 2018 at 17:57

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