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For example, this question was originally useless, as the OP gave us no way to reproduce or diagnose the error. I downvoted and voted to close, along with at least one other user — and left a comment requesting a MCVE.

Amazingly, the OP heeded the call and clarified the question (and then I did some amount of editing myself) so that it's actually a good one now! It's an interesting problem, and I'm not sure I can solve it. Unfortunately, it's also way down in the feed where no one can see it.

How can we help such questions get the attention they now deserve? Both for that particular question's sake, but perhaps more importantly, as an incentive for the OPs to fix their broken questions.

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    Well, it gets a bump when the user provides a substantial edit, like he did. It may not show up on the front page, but it will show up in someone's tag page. That said, Excel and VBA are not necessarily the hottest topics.
    – Robert Harvey Mod
    Commented Oct 22, 2014 at 19:04
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    Remove all of your down/close votes, and even upvote the question, if it fulfills all quality policies now. Commented Oct 22, 2014 at 19:11
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    @πάνταῥεῖ That doesn't address what he's actually asking about.
    – Servy
    Commented Oct 22, 2014 at 19:11
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    @Servy Editing the question already should have bumped it. Though if one really want's to get it featured you can apply a bounty for the question, giving away your own rep points as a reward (altruistic POV). Commented Oct 22, 2014 at 19:15
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    The redemption-attention badge !! Commented Oct 22, 2014 at 19:29
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    @Coffee: Nice idea. A badge for bountying a someone else's poster-edited question, if it moves (while under bounty) from at least negative 2 to at least positive 2 (without regard to your own vote). (Should be gold) Commented Oct 22, 2014 at 21:08
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    This difficulty in rounding up enough votes to undo the damage is precisely why (frequent unwise advice from the usual suspects to the contrary) your first instinct should not be to close a question, but rather simply to request what you feel would make it answerable with a comment. Commented Oct 22, 2014 at 22:23
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    @ChrisStratton: I'm not sure I agree. The entire purpose of the put-on-hold system is to drive questions to improvement. If the put-on-hold system is not accomplishing that (because the questions, once improved, die anyway), then I think it would be better to improve that system, rather than advising people to avoid it.
    – ruakh
    Commented Oct 22, 2014 at 22:29
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    This is another example of how the legitimate desire "to express displeasure" with the state of the question, ends up having a lingering, counterproductive effect of acting as an answer ban, even once the question is answerable. The responder ends up having to recruit a re-open lobby before they can answer the question they've gotten improved. So much simpler to just leave a comment, and answer if and immediately when improvements make such appropriate. Commented Oct 22, 2014 at 22:39
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    "the damage" should have an effect of training posters to post high-quality questions in the first place. They should learn, when their question is relegated to obscurity, that they should have done a better job up-front. It's not wise to allow sloppy behavior and then task the community with coaxing posters to improve their questions. Yes, that avenue does exist, but it's not the preferred avenue. The preferred avenue is to get high-quality content from the get-go, and site behaviors that encourage this are good, IMHO. -- from yours truly, a usual suspect. Commented Oct 22, 2014 at 22:39
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    @RobertCrovella - "they" are not a single entity who can learn, they are a flood of new, unique instances. But "you" - who persist in believing in the flawed close-to-fix idea are here long enough, and see enough, that you actually could learn from your mistake. Commented Oct 22, 2014 at 22:40
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    I disagree. They can learn, whoever they are. The expectations of the site are pretty clear. It's niether unwise, nor a mistake, to enforce them. I knew almost nothing about SO when I started. I learned plenty, including from my own mistakes. Commented Oct 22, 2014 at 22:44
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    @ChrisStratton I don't disagree with you, If I see a problem (unless its just ridiculously major) with a post and its very new, I'll leave a comment; wait a few (around 10) minutes, then downvote/VTC after that if I get no response. Even doing that >90% of questions have no activity, and I (like most people) probably aren't going to wait hours with the question open hoping the asker comes back; we moderate, and hope they improve. Commented Oct 22, 2014 at 22:45
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    @ChrisStratton: I decide on the spot whether to downvote / vote to close based on the current quality of the question. Those votes can be undone later if justified. Why do that instead of just not voting in the first place? It's a question of estimated probabilities. From my observations, it's much more likely that a question will stay the same (i.e. continue to be deserving of the down/close votes and subsequent garbage collection) rather than improve. What breaks the system is that life is too short: people (incl me) rarely return to the question later to correct their votes (or non-votes). Commented Oct 23, 2014 at 6:43
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    How about deleting the question and creating a new one with all the information.
    – ani627
    Commented Oct 23, 2014 at 11:27

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Two options:

  1. Do nothing. The question gets a bump when the user provides a substantial edit. It may not show up on the front page, but it will show up in someone's tag page.

  2. If you really want to get it featured, then offer a bounty on the question.

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    That said, Excel and VBA are not necessarily the hottest topics. – Robert Harvey♦ 18 hours ago
    – adv12
    Commented Oct 23, 2014 at 13:44
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    it doesn't matter if the tags are popular or not.. there are always some experts in even less popular tags willing to help - they just need to get notified somehow so a bounty seems like a good solution.
    – user2140173
    Commented Oct 24, 2014 at 8:20
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    3. The Meta effect ;)
    – Blackhawk
    Commented Oct 24, 2014 at 13:49
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There's a third option: bring attention to the question in the chat rooms.

The chat rooms have their own process and tags dedicated for this sort of thing. For example, when someone wants to gather a posse to close a question, they post a message and add [tag:cv-pls] to the message ("cv-pls" is shorthand for "close vote please"). I'm told its a fair and balanced system, so there should be a [tag:uv-pls] tag, too (with "uv-pls" being "up vote please").

You can read more about using the chat rooms to enlist the posse at Remove cv-pls tag from chat rooms.

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  • Note: there is the [tag:rov-pls] tag i.e. reopen vote please, which can be used if the question was closed but deserves reopening. Commented Oct 25, 2014 at 18:37

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