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I feel like decent questions are receiving fewer upvotes these days (but interestingly, bad questions are receiving many downvotes and close votes). I'm not saying this is a bad thing for the site, I'm just interested to see whether there is any data to support the position.

Has anyone made a graph of votes-per-view plotted against date? If not, where should I start looking in order to make one myself?


To clarify, I was interested in the number of votes per view on a question. For example, maybe there were 20 votes cast for 100 views a couple of years ago, and now it might be down to 10. I was not intending to ask about the number of upvotes relative to downvotes, which is more a measure of post quality than voting participation.

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    Sure. Sep 1, 2014 at 23:42
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    perfect. cheers
    – wim
    Sep 1, 2014 at 23:50
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    Note that the graph doesn't necessarily support your position. It could be the result of an declining ratio of decent to bad questions.
    – Ross Ridge
    Sep 2, 2014 at 0:04
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    I have to agree with Ross' point here. Note the recent, symmetrical increase of downvotes in Hans's graph. Sep 2, 2014 at 0:33
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    Every question / answer I use in my command I upvote the answer and the question to thank the answer person and the person who asked the question. Simple reason, they did a service for me. Because now I don't need to look for 4 more hours. Just a big thanks to everyone here! Sep 2, 2014 at 9:41
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    @HansPassant This graph is interesting too but I looked closer at the queries and unless I'm mistaken it does not really answer my question - I want to show votes-per-view on the y axis. The absolute number of votes is not a normalised measure so it only has meaning when seen in relation to the number of downvotes. This can be a measure of question quality as mentioned. I was more interested in the number of votes per view.
    – wim
    Sep 2, 2014 at 9:46
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    I think perhaps πάντα ῥεῖ has changed the meaning of my question by modifying the title, I will roll it back and edit with a clarification
    – wim
    Sep 2, 2014 at 9:48
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    @FrédéricHamidi I'm not sure if the increase in downvotes is a real effect, or just an artifact of the graph. Downvoted questions get deleted, but not instantly. About 44% of my own downvotes are on deleted posts and the ratio is probably even bigger for people who downvote more questions and less answers. If the graph doesn't include downvotes on deleted posts, that would explain the spike. Sep 2, 2014 at 10:00
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    "votes per view on a question" would be a fragile measure. 100,000 views from Reddit from those without rep to vote or even unregistered can drag it down beyond any meaningful value. What you need is more likely votes per user per day, probably separate to users who can only vote up and those who can vote both up and down
    – gnat
    Sep 2, 2014 at 10:06
  • I'd be interested to see the number of up/down votes on only questions that haven't had any close votes, and also have that graph normalised to take site popularity into account (perhaps votes per question?)
    – DavidG
    Sep 2, 2014 at 10:11
  • Or perhaps only looking at questions with a positive overall score, do older questions receive more upvotes than they do now?
    – DavidG
    Sep 2, 2014 at 10:13
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    @juanchopanza I think you are misunderstanding what I've intended. I'm not interested in a measure of the "decent question", but in a measure of user participation. i.e. are users engaging in the voting process, or just lurking and reading. This should be much easier to quantify.
    – wim
    Sep 2, 2014 at 10:26
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    I have made sure to vote everyday, but I'm sure 1 user cannot make a difference :P.
    – John Odom
    Sep 2, 2014 at 14:30
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    I'm pretty sure people are voting less in the tags I frequent. The hot answers in the SQL Server tag currently has the hottest answer at only +10 for the entire month. This is much lower than I remember being typical say 18 months or 2 years ago. Sep 2, 2014 at 21:13
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    This is what I would expect. It's not that all the good questions have been asked already, but most of the good fairly obvious questions have been asked. Time was when you could get 209 votes and 32 favourites for asking something as basic as this; do that these days and you (rightly) get a slap and a closed-duplicate. Sep 3, 2014 at 8:20

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To give a simple interpretation on Hans Passant's graph for votes per month:

The chart has lines for the total, just up votes, and just down votes from 2009 to 2018. The number of down votes starts going up in 2011 and has been around 50000 since early 2015. The total number of up votes has been around 100000 for 2017 - 2018, down from its all time high of 150000 in 2015.

It looks for me as the site gains popularity, the number of low quality questions increased, and so did downvotes in relation to upvotes.

So yes, upvotes are less relative to downvotes recently, since the quality questions posted are less than the low quality questions (just look at the last data points and their relative distance of votes).

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    Take into account the roomba hasn't deleted the most recent bad questions yet and the downvotes on those skew the results.
    – Martijn Pieters Mod
    Sep 2, 2014 at 0:55
  • upvotes really haven't decreased much at all.. there are just a lot more downvotes.
    – CRABOLO
    Sep 2, 2014 at 2:13
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    @lostsock "... there are just a lot more downvotes" Because of a lot more VLQ questions as I suspect. Sep 2, 2014 at 2:18
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    @πάνταῥεῖ It might not be just that popularity has increased. Perhaps it is simply that all the good questions that can be asked have already been asked.
    – sashoalm
    Sep 2, 2014 at 9:24
  • Interesting enough. But not that much if not compared to population, preferably active pop. Spread on new vs. old questions would also be interesting.
    – user13500
    Sep 2, 2014 at 9:36
  • Yeah, but that diagram is only a part of the picture. How does the vote count per [active] member looks like? How does it look per question/answer? Or per new questions/answers? Sep 2, 2014 at 11:19
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    Here's a version of the graph that shows all up/down votes, not just ones within 31 days of the question being asked. There is a minor downturn in Feb-June, but nothing major. It seems pretty normal to me.
    – Rachel
    Sep 2, 2014 at 14:36
  • Here's a version of @Rachel's graph that shows the relative proportion of upvotes vs downvotes as a fraction of total votes cast. The gap has definitely narrowed recently, but there are still four(ish) upvotes cast for every downvote. Sep 2, 2014 at 15:24
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    @sashoalm Of course, all the good questions that can be asked have already been asked. Also everything that can be invented has been invented. ;-)
    – Palec
    Sep 2, 2014 at 20:48
  • @Palec Isn't finding these an NP problem space? ;-) ... Sep 2, 2014 at 20:51
  • @πάνταῥεῖ Impossible to formalize, IMO. But if you tried to imply that you know good question when you see it, I must say I do too. :-)
    – Palec
    Sep 2, 2014 at 21:13
  • @Palec Let's leave this to the AI experts :-P ... Sep 2, 2014 at 21:15
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    @Palec Yes, by "all" I meant most. It's akin to market saturation, like you could make a lot of money on Android Apps in the beginning, but now - not so much.
    – sashoalm
    Sep 3, 2014 at 8:26
  • "upvotes are less relative to downvotes recently," Not just relative. They also have decreased in absolute numbers per month.
    – GolezTrol
    Sep 3, 2014 at 9:02
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    @Lundin looking at the SEDE query the votes depict the number of votes per month. And the live query shows till 2018. In the answer you only see a screenshot from when the answer was posted ...
    – rene
    Jun 13, 2018 at 17:32
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To clarify, I was interested in the number of votes per view on a question. E.g. maybe there were 20 votes cast for 100 views a couple of years ago, and now it might be down to 10.

This is not something we know.

The SE Dev Team probably won't even know this unless they tracked individual view statistics, and I don't think they do since tracking each individual view would take up a ridiculous amount of space. Also, I know the same user can count for multiple views, and if SE was tracking View stats I doubt that would be allowed.

Best case scenario is to find an old data dump, and run a query like this against both the old data and compare it with the same query run against the newer data.

A graph of the current data would look like this :

enter image description here

To clarify the data

  • X Axis is date at which questions were Asked
  • Y Axis is the total # of Up and Down votes that question received as of today, divided by the number of Views as of today
  • The ratio has been multiplied by a huge number to make it visible on the graph

Obviously, questions that have been around much longer have accumulated many more views than newer questions (including repeat-viewers, who can only vote once but can count for multiple views), so they naturally have a much lower VotePerView ratio.

Also, keep in mind deleted questions don't count in this graph, and there is a roomba that auto-deletes any low-scoring questions, which is most likely why the right side of the graph looks so high. For example, this version of the graph only counts upvotes, and the top of it is roughly 0.013, compared to 0.023 in current graph.)

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    "I know the same user can count for multiple views" [citation needed]
    – Braiam
    Sep 3, 2014 at 3:25
  • @Braiam I don't recall the exact Meta.SE post, however this one looks close enough. I'll add the link to my answer too :)
    – Rachel
    Sep 3, 2014 at 4:51
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    I wonder if something like this is relevant too, it shows that the number of votes per question has remained fairly consistent (for answers with a positive overall score) data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/222089/…
    – DavidG
    Sep 3, 2014 at 8:17
  • actually, SO does keep a tracking of how many views a question has and is displayed right next to the amount of votes and answers in the question list. One viewer is counted one time.
    – Greg
    Sep 3, 2014 at 9:17
  • @Greg Total number of Views is tracked, however individual views are not. For example, I've noticed if you view a question on two separate days, it counts as two separate views for the TotalViews counter. I've seen meta discussions about this in the past, and you can find a lot more info on how it works with a meta.SE search, such as the link I added in my earlier comment
    – Rachel
    Sep 3, 2014 at 14:12
  • my mistake, I guess I should have had a few more cups of coffee this morning
    – Greg
    Sep 3, 2014 at 14:42
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The other answer answers your question, but I will answer to the other part:

To clarify, I was interested in the number of votes per view on a question. E.g. maybe there were 20 votes cast for 100 views a couple of years ago, and now it might be down to 10. I was not intending to ask about the number of upvotes relative to downvotes, which is more a measure of post quality than voting participation.

You are totally wrong here (link): enter image description here Users here from 3 years ago started to respond faster to bad or good quality questions. When I tried to do both to answers and question it was down to vote per 5 views, while views can be even from guests.

NOTE: maybe need fix, I never programmed in SQL, well except this time.

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    I'm a bit confused, the link you posted to Data.SE does not incorporate Views in any way, and the graph it displays does not match the graph in your answer. In addition, accurate data like that is very hard to obtain since there is no timestamp on any of the views, so naturally older questions will have many more views than newer questions. (Also in the linked Data.SE query, you are only including Votes cast within 31 days of question creation. Was that intentional?)
    – Rachel
    Sep 2, 2014 at 18:48
  • @Rachel Fixed. When someone view something they able to vote those posts too. (The top questions are still upvoted while being old) By the way if you use problems that are similar to Also in the linked Data.SE query, you are only including ... in the fixed query, it would be good if you could fix it.
    – KugBuBu
    Sep 2, 2014 at 19:22
  • Views per Vote is exactly the measure that the original poster asked for. But somehow I cannot believe this graph - it goes to zero???
    – Trilarion
    Sep 2, 2014 at 19:28
  • Not down to zero, but a huge drop in the views per vote ratio.
    – Léo Lam
    Sep 2, 2014 at 19:35
  • @KugBuBu I'm sorry, but that query and graph is horribly inaccurate :) You can't identify ViewsPerMonth because that data isn't tracked, and you're using counting Accepted+Upvotes, not Upvotes+Downvotes. To get a more accurate query, you'd need something like this, however even that isn't very accurate because there is no way of knowing the ViewsPerVote from X years ago compared to now. We can only see it as of right now, and naturally older posts have a much lower ViewsToVote ratio than newer ones.
    – Rachel
    Sep 2, 2014 at 20:02
  • @Trilarion Down to 19, I added link to the data.
    – KugBuBu
    Sep 2, 2014 at 20:23
  • @Rachel I think I got your point, if you think that users stop voting questions that are a bit old, then make query and do votes per posts. I am not feeling like writing code in this language ever again. ם.ם really horrible language.
    – KugBuBu
    Sep 2, 2014 at 20:29
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    @KugBuBu :) SQL really isn't that bad once you get to know it, and I am glad you made the effort. I wouldn't have bothered to post my own answer otherwise. Queries to find answers to questions like these aren't very easy.
    – Rachel
    Sep 2, 2014 at 20:33
  • @Rachel I dislike wordy-languages (well, except some human-languages). Thanks I've done it by copy-paste from Hans Passant's query, and while(error()) try(); to death.
    – KugBuBu
    Sep 2, 2014 at 20:38

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