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What am I missing here?

I flagged this question to have it moved because, to me, this clearly looked like a sysadmin issue, and didn't fall into any of these categories (per the help center):

  • a specific programming problem, You could answer this without programming; it relates to adding users. Tools exist for this purpose. Including bulk-provisioning tools; or
  • a software algorithm, The user isn't asking about the algorithm, just the syntax; or
  • software tools commonly used by programmers; and is a practical, answerable problem that is unique to software development, Not unique to software development, and I'd argue that "useradd" is a program which, if the sysadmin is doing their job, the dev need never run. Which isn't to say I haven't run it myself, but not in my capacity as a programmer

I suppose the software argument could be made because there is a programming language involved, but bash is a glue language and I know plenty of people who can write bash scripts but wouldn't call themselves programmers. What really sealed the deal for me is that the OP actually said "I am using centOS in an administration class," within which the question came up. If that doesn't say "sysadmin question" I don't know what does.

As a rule, I flag things pretty rarely. Only when something clearly seems like a bad fit.

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    I'm not impressed by your deleted comment about getting a moderator stupid enough to say there was no evidence to support your migration request. I'm also not particularly impressed that you thought the issue was important enough to raise once again here.
    – Robert Harvey Mod
    Commented Jul 28, 2014 at 16:55
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    That a question may be a better fit on another site doesn't automatically make it off-topic. If it is reasonably on-topic, why move it?
    – Oded StaffMod
    Commented Jul 28, 2014 at 16:58
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    @RobertHarvey Well, the reason provided for denying the migration request was so cursory and unhelpful that I admit I took it as an insult. While I freely admit my reaction was less than polite, the purpose was not to impress you; it was to shame the original person into providing more helpful feedback. Since shame is an approved motivational tool on SO (hence the entire voting system), I didn't see the ideological issue, there. Commented Jul 28, 2014 at 17:12
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    Voting is a feedback mechanism, not a shaming tool. If you think votes are about a pat on the back or a kick in the groin, you've entirely missed the point.
    – Robert Harvey Mod
    Commented Jul 28, 2014 at 17:14
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    @RobertHarvey I asked the question here because the explanation from the original reviewer failed to be explanatory, so I had to turn to the larger community. On the one hand, I'm sorry you aren't impressed, but on the other I wasn't really trying to impress you. Commented Jul 28, 2014 at 17:15
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    I don't require your approval, never did. But you don't have to be a clod either. The community runs on professionalism, not mud slinging.
    – Robert Harvey Mod
    Commented Jul 28, 2014 at 17:16
  • @RobertHarvey It's a feedback mechanism used to condition the behavior of humans on the internet. If it doesn't elicit an emotional response, it won't work. Commented Jul 28, 2014 at 17:19
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    Going from that to calling it an "approved shaming tool" is a really big stretch.
    – Robert Harvey Mod
    Commented Jul 28, 2014 at 17:20
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    "But you don't have to be a clod either" Gentlemen, we have irony. Commented Jul 28, 2014 at 17:20
  • If the shoe fits...
    – Robert Harvey Mod
    Commented Jul 28, 2014 at 17:20
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    @RobertHarvey I won't make another comment in that vein. It wasn't my best moment. But I do defend this question. Because I didn't know the answer before I asked it, and now I do. Commented Jul 28, 2014 at 17:21
  • @RobertHarvey Well, yes. I thought the shoe fit, too. But I'm glad you apply exceptionalism to yourself at the expense of your ethical high ground. Commented Jul 28, 2014 at 17:22
  • @ParthianShot the reason provided for denying the migration request was so cursory and unhelpful - you received a pre-defined response for a flag which was "declined - a moderator reviewed your flag, but found no evidence to support it". I'm not sure why you were insulted by this, it is pretty self-explanatory. We reviewed the flag but didn't agree.
    – Taryn Mod
    Commented Jul 28, 2014 at 17:26
  • The moderators at Stack Overflow are not exceptional in any way, except that they've voluntarily chosen to give of their precious free time to clean up other people's messes. Regardless of what you think of me or any of the other moderators, if you cannot afford them a minimal amount of respect as people, at least you can try to respect their time.
    – Robert Harvey Mod
    Commented Jul 28, 2014 at 17:28
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    @Will You haven't participated in a single bash question (for example) and very few linux or scripting, and that's fair enough. However, is the fact that you are not interested in such questions a good reason to prevent others from asking and answering them? Yes, a number of these questions will be borderline between programming and sysadmin, but you can simply ignore them like you would ignore other questions on other tags or subjects you don't normally follow.
    – Bruno
    Commented Jul 28, 2014 at 17:48

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We tend only to migrate when it is extremely clear that the target site is wholly appropriate, and the existing site is not. One could argue either way there, so I can see it being left. If the question was more about using some 'tool' to accomplish the task, or less about the scripting, then it might have been more appropriate elsewhere.

And kudos for wanting to improve your flagging, by the way.

Incidentally, your comment there about the moderation response was less than polite

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    There were also no votes to close the question to move it to SF, so no other users thought that this possibly was a better fit for another site or was off-topic for SO.
    – Taryn Mod
    Commented Jul 28, 2014 at 17:03
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    +1 for not trying to close this question purely based on its application domain. Some people seem to be simply allergic to questions that invlove any sysadmin stuff.
    – Bruno
    Commented Jul 28, 2014 at 17:07
  • @bluefeet I don't see the relevance, there. Are you saying that there haven't been questions closed or moved with one vote to close or move, or that those questions which were moved/closed with one vote were moved/closed in error? Or that I'm the god who always lies? Commented Jul 28, 2014 at 17:41
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    @ParthianShot I'm saying that I also take into consideration feedback from the community when making decisions. When your flag was reviewed, there was an answer, no close votes, etc plus the question appears to be on-topic for SO - I take all of these things into account.
    – Taryn Mod
    Commented Jul 28, 2014 at 17:44
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    @bluefeet That's fair. And I didn't know it was you when I responded the way I did. I'm actually quite fond of your writing style, posts and comments. Sorry about the rudeness. Commented Jul 28, 2014 at 17:47
  • I can think of five different SE sites that a question like this may be on-topic on. I generally wouldn't think about migrating unless the site it was posted to was blatantly off-topic, or sometimes, if I thought the user would not get a good answer on the site it was originally posted on, and would be much more likely to get a good answer on another site. Commented Jul 28, 2014 at 18:27
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    @MichaelHampton Now, if someone had flagged to move it to Seasoned Advice, I know I'd have done it! ;)
    – Andrew Barber Mod
    Commented Jul 28, 2014 at 20:39

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