-2

See this comment: Get IntelliJ to show compilation problems automatically

Throw this on the "broken duplicate incentive" pile.

Per bluefeet, I'm changing this back to support since that's clearly what the discussion, answers and votes are, and opening a separate clean feature request.

25
  • I understand how votes work on meta. Would the downvoter care to explain a more appropriate way to reward the user who solved my problem?
    – djechlin
    Jun 10, 2014 at 14:54
  • 3
    The correct procedure for a duplicate question with a bounty is to flag the post for moderator attention, asking for the bounty to be removed. Usually the bounty is refunded in such cases.
    – Martijn Pieters Mod
    Jun 10, 2014 at 15:01
  • 1
    @MartijnPieters user deserves it though.
    – djechlin
    Jun 10, 2014 at 15:03
  • 1
    That's still not how it works. Find another deserving answer by that user, and award a bounty to that (post a new bounty on the question).
    – Martijn Pieters Mod
    Jun 10, 2014 at 15:04
  • 3
    @MartijnPieters That seems a bit lopsided (awarding a bounty to a user because of a different answer by them)...
    – Veedrac
    Jun 10, 2014 at 15:05
  • I've upvoted your question as I think it's interesting but downvoted your answer, as it seems a very bad practice.
    – javi
    Jun 10, 2014 at 15:06
  • 1
    @Veedrac, awarding a bounty to someone who found a duplicate is also lopsided, as is encouraging duplication within the system by replicating the answer. Just close the question and be done with it. Jun 10, 2014 at 15:06
  • Changing this to feature request. Now that I know the official way to do this it's so broken that I should just ask it be possible to do it right.
    – djechlin
    Jun 10, 2014 at 15:07
  • 1
    @MartijnPieters I'm not disagreeing, but why don't we want this?
    – Veedrac
    Jun 10, 2014 at 15:08
  • 1
    @MartijnPieters yes we do. Can you explain that?
    – djechlin
    Jun 10, 2014 at 15:10
  • 1
    @MartijnPieters the upside is my problem was solved. The bounty worked. The feature request should obviously include solving this properly instead of the most naive way possible.
    – djechlin
    Jun 10, 2014 at 15:12
  • 1
    @MartijnPieters If it helps answer the question, solves the reasons for bounties, encourages closing, reduces need for moderator attention and increases searchability, then... maybe? I see the downsides. I just don't see it as clear-cut.
    – Veedrac
    Jun 10, 2014 at 15:12
  • 2
    @MartijnPieters excuse me? a user was screwed out of a reward he was expecting for solving my problem, and was just kind enough to say "well I wanted the bounty, but you seem like a nice guy so I'll help you out anyway while I'm here." and now I have to do an enormous kludge, involve a moderator, find an okay answer of his to make look like a hugely great answer, and you downvote this feature request... because it's also a problem that answer via duplicate isn't rewarded and we have a close hammer? those unrelated things make this a poor feature request?
    – djechlin
    Jun 10, 2014 at 15:20
  • 1
    @djechlin: You don't have to give any bounty. The user knew what they were doing; they were going to invest some time solving it for you then did the honourable thing and pointed to a dupe.
    – Martijn Pieters Mod
    Jun 10, 2014 at 15:22
  • 1
    @MartijnPieters Also note that you not needing bounties isn't the same as for a 7k rep user, to whom 250 rep is a lot more. :P
    – Veedrac
    Jun 10, 2014 at 15:23

3 Answers 3

8

There is no way in place to reward someone for finding a duplicate question that solves your problem. I wouldn't suggest that person who found it post an answer to your duplicate.

The proper solution would be to request that a moderator refund your bounty and then close your question as the duplicate found.

If you really want to reward the person who solved your problem by finding the duplicate, then you can find a deserving answer of theirs and give them a bounty.

11
  • How is this better than my solution? It involves a moderator, another bounty, and an award on an unrelated but hopefully at least mediocre answer.
    – djechlin
    Jun 10, 2014 at 15:05
  • 1
    @djechlin The only difference seems to be that content isn't duplicated. That doesn't seem very important if the question's going to be closed, though, and the downside is that this imparts bias on an unrelated question.
    – Veedrac
    Jun 10, 2014 at 15:06
  • 3
    @djechlin If you found a duplicate question that solved your problem, why do we need to have an answer posted to your question? You stated yourself that the other question solved your problem, why do you need an identical answer posted on your question.
    – Taryn
    Jun 10, 2014 at 15:08
  • 1
    @bluefeet to award a bounty onto it.
    – djechlin
    Jun 10, 2014 at 15:08
  • 5
    @djechlin, the commenter doesn't want the stupid bounty! He took the high road and pointed to the duplicate. Let it go. We do not want replicated content, that's going against the entire purpose of the site. Jun 10, 2014 at 15:11
  • @djechlin If you are really grateful to the user, then you can find a deserving answer of theirs and award them a bounty.
    – Taryn
    Jun 10, 2014 at 15:14
  • 1
    Yes. That's true. I can. That's also a terrible workflow with several problems, which is why I opened a feature request on the topic.
    – djechlin
    Jun 10, 2014 at 15:18
  • 1
    @djechlin I personally would suggest leaving this question as your support question and then opening a feature-request. Problem is that most of the answers here are about your original support question and they don't apply to a feature request.
    – Taryn
    Jun 10, 2014 at 15:19
  • @djechlin: that user has an answer with 148 upvotes. That is a deserving answer, you can award bounty there. Jun 10, 2014 at 15:41
  • @Payeli I mean yeah this is what I'm going to do. Still would be better for the user to get a +250 in Java/IntelliJ. He probably would benefit from more publicity there than piling on to his #1. Anyway I opened this up as a separate request. I agree the solutions posted are the best possible, and the problems with them are for a feature request, not dealing with this case.
    – djechlin
    Jun 10, 2014 at 15:43
  • +1 I also use this way of rewarding people when I receive help in chat. Jun 10, 2014 at 18:05
1

If the commented had wanted your bounty that badly, he would have posted an answer regardless of the question being duplicated.

By commenting with the duplicate, he essentially forfeited the bounty. The other solutions of awarding a different answer of his are correct.

12
  • 1
    So what we are saying is that we are punishing him for being a good citizen?
    – Veedrac
    Jun 10, 2014 at 15:13
  • @Veedrac: Not sure how one forfeiting one's own reward constitutes us punishing them.
    – BoltClock
    Jun 10, 2014 at 15:13
  • it's regarded as bad practice to answer duplicate questions, e.g., by copying and pasting.
    – djechlin
    Jun 10, 2014 at 15:13
  • @Veedrac: Lack of reward towards finding duplicates is a known issue, and has been discussed several times. But no one is getting punished. No one is losing anything here. Jun 10, 2014 at 15:13
  • 1
    @SecondRikudo I would have lost a lot if he didn't post the comment (at no reward) either. Fortunately he got screwed over out of the effort for solving my problem, at which point he was kind of enough to recognize it as a sunk cost and comment the answer.
    – djechlin
    Jun 10, 2014 at 15:14
  • 1
    @djechlin Which is why I said, if your point is to reward him for helping you, find a different answer he wrote that's worth it, and award it there. The system currently does not allow for awarding bounties on duplicate finds. That's all there is to it. Trying to find ways around it will only result in trouble. Jun 10, 2014 at 15:16
  • @SecondRikudo so you're saying he didn't want the bounty bad enough to flaunt good practice, and saying he flaunted the body. Yes that's the problem this question is about. This adds no value.
    – djechlin
    Jun 10, 2014 at 15:16
  • @SecondRikudo Because bounties are meant to encourage "good behaviour" (high quality answers). As soon as the question is a duplicate, the bounty encourages bad practice and discourages good practice.
    – Veedrac
    Jun 10, 2014 at 15:17
  • For starters, write a better answer than the found duplicate, and then closing that as a duplicate of the newer question is perfectly acceptable. Second, which is way the correct course of action is to request a bounty refund, and award it elsewhere. Jun 10, 2014 at 15:18
  • 1
    There isn't a better answer. My problem is fully solved.
    – djechlin
    Jun 10, 2014 at 15:18
  • 2
    @djechlin You aren't the center here. All answers on Stack Overflow are expected to help future visitors as well as the OP. Jun 10, 2014 at 15:19
  • @SecondRikudo The point is that saying "I'll give you the bounty for writing a better answer" ignores the wish to say thanks for finding the answer, especially if that answer is already very good.
    – Veedrac
    Jun 10, 2014 at 15:25
-10

My "patch" is to ask the commenter to post a duplicate answer, award the duplicate, then try to get the question closed.

1
  • -1: This causes many more problems than it solves. It also would mean that SO would need a different policy when bounties are involved. You are definitely not the only person who feels this way, however, the answers that provide ways around this are perfectly valid. Why complicate things? Jun 10, 2014 at 17:58

You must log in to answer this question.

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged .