Being a beginning programmer myself, I have found much of the content (questions and such) to be far past my knowledge, even in languages I know the basics of (such as HTML). My question is, do you think the content is too advanced for people like me? If so, what can be done about it? If not, why do you think so?
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To quote the help center (emphasis mine)
Stack Overflow is for professional and enthusiast programmers, people who write code because they love it. We feel the best Stack Overflow questions have a bit of source code in them
Ultimately Stack Overflow is intended for users to have a basic understanding of programming concepts. You don't need to be an expert, but you are expected to understand enough to be able to understand the answers to your question.
Beginners are absolutely welcome, but users are expected to be able to operate on their own. That means they need to be able to do research on their own and to be able to grasp the basics of the concepts they are asking about. No one will hold your hand and no one will treat you differently just because you are a beginner.
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Ah. I had no idea it said that. I need to read the fine print more often I guess. +1 for you sir.– user3265987May 27, 2014 at 0:02
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2@Woops one thing to remember is skill & experience level and "enthusiasm" level are mutually exclusive. You can be a beginner and be a professional or an enthusiast, so do not let those words hold you back from participating. But regardless a certain level of professionalism will be expected. If you don't know how to figure things out on your own, and only when you get stuck then turn to Stack Overflow, this might not be the site for you at this point. May 27, 2014 at 0:18
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@psubsee2003 Do you really mean "mutually exclusive", not "mutually independent"? I don't see any reason an experienced and skilled programmer cannot be an enthusiast. May 27, 2014 at 7:31
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@PatriciaShanahan yes, I do mean "independent"... thanks for the correction May 27, 2014 at 12:35
Your concern does not make sense; what are you trying to do with the content? There's all kinds of problems and solutions on Stack Overflow, of all "levels".
If you have a programming problem, and you find a question that seems to be about that problem, but you can't understand either the question itself or the answers, then ask a new question, explaining your problem and exactly what you don't understand about the other posts.
There's no other concern that I can see. This isn't a course in school, it's not a social club, it's not a book you're reading chapter by chapter, and it's not a place to learn how to program. It's a place you look (or ask) when you have a coding obstacle that you can describe clearly in a few paragraphs. It's a huge archive of independent search results; hunt through it when you have some difficulty, and post a question if you don't find your answer.
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Now that I think about it, I feel like you are right. It never says its for beginners, but I don't know. +1 for clarity– user3265987May 26, 2014 at 23:59
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You're missing the point, @Woops. Beginner/expert/intermediate/guru doesn't matter. It's just well-formed problem statements with clear, concrete solutions.– jscsMay 27, 2014 at 0:01
Yes, much of it is too advanced for a beginner! -- thanks to the efforts of thousands of developers and hundreds of notable experts.
As an additional benefit, there is also a great deal of information for the beginner.
A more "beginner-oriented" Stack Overflow that can not answer the advanced, specialized and esoteric questions where people get stuck will not keep a large audience and would not continue to grow and be useful as new technologies are developed.
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1I think your middle sentence is gold. I've learned/figured out a thousand times the information that my profile activity would suggest here, just by reading the existing information. It works great - strangely - when I'm looking for something specific. Jun 4, 2014 at 13:18
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1There's dozen, maybe 100s of examples of anything fairly common and basic, and votes help identify quality. Why people won't read more of that stuff first before posting is beyond me.– PaulJun 4, 2014 at 13:22
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I don't really agree with the last part. The beginners courses in university usually are the most well attended. Beginners tutorials tend to be simple, but there is not necessary mechanism keeping them old technology. In the old days people started learning Fortran, now they start with F# - still everyone is a beginner as some point. It's not clear in my eyes how a beginners SO would fare. If it wouldn't be so much work I would even try to see for myself and take part in such an endeavor. Teaching people how to programm in an Q&A format could be fun. Jul 5, 2014 at 11:37
what can be done about it
do you think things in general would be better if you got better at programming or if SO "dumbed it down"? What would/will happen when you get better? Will/would SO still be of value then?