Some Background
My proposal/idea is not really about how downvotes work on a technical level, or about increasing or decreasing the number of downvotes on the site, or about downvote (un)fairness. All of those have multitudinous dedicated discussions already. I'm thinking more about the way users perceive downvotes, and how that affects how they use and, to a greater extent, how they react to downvotes.
I've only been an SO/MSO
user for under two weeks now, and I have already seen several new questions about random downvotes, instant downvotes, and/or unfair downvotes, as well as a long history of similar questions that were asked before I got here. If you've been active on MSO
at all in the past weeks, I'm sure you know what I'm talking about.
The Problem
The problem is that newer users especially, but also many not-so-new users (the SO
veterans generally have a good grasp on the usages of downvoting, as far as I can tell), see downvotes as negative feedback, as if this were some sort of social media site. To a lot of people, upvote
and downvote
translate directly to thumbs up
and thumbs down
. What a downvote should - and in the minds of more experienced users, does - signify is, 'this post could use improvement'.
But it doesn't really look like that, does it? I mean, an up arrow and a down arrow have a limited range of things they can stand for in this kind of setting. In an ideal world, new users would read FAQs, look at tooltips, browse for answers before they ask questions, and so on, but that just is not the case. Unfortunately, you can't say, "Well, the resources are there, the new users just aren't looking at them" and pretend you have a functional system when the new users never look at them. Also unfortunately, there's no way to force new users to read a manual before starting on the site. There are very few people who enjoy reading FAQs and/or manuals, and in this day and age, people are becoming more and more used to information being presented to them in more visual ways. Take a look at Google Chrome's welcome page for an example of what I mean.
The Idea
Rather than having an upvote
button, which means that 'someone finds this post useful and well-done', it could just be an I find this useful and well-done
button. Maybe the symbol could be a checkmark, a heart, a star, a thumbs-up, a plus, etc. Then, instead of a downvote
button, there could be a This post could use improvement
button. The icon for that could be a wrench, or a hammer, or a pencil, or something like that.
The idea is just to make it clear to anybody who uses the site that that is what those buttons mean. That way, new users will be less-likely to straight-up complain about downvotes, and maybe they'll ask for more specific feedback if their post gets the Could use improvement
vote. Heck, I might be going waaaay out of line here, but maybe users could have the ability to vote with both options, as if to say 'This post is useful, but it could use some improvement'.
Note that I have absolutely no expectation that this will get implemented. This is not a feature request, just an idea intended to provoke thought and discussion.
EDIT: After only a few comments, several gaping holes in this whole concept were revealed that I don't have an immediate solution for which doesn't involve revamping the entire rep system, which I have no intention of suggesting. The point I attempted to make was that many users seem to misinterpret the significance of the up and down arrows and the number that comes with them. If those symbols were presented in a way that made it more clear to everyone - new users especially - what they actually mean, some of the hassle of "teaching" people how to properly downvote could be avoided.
Feedback?
As always, I am interested to hear what you all think, especially you veteran users who have been around for a while.
Thanks for reading! I know that was really long (believe me, I know -__-), but I hope it was worth it. Peace!
EDIT: As I wrote this, I found this post by Cupcake that is somewhat similar, although his is in respect to MSO
specifically.