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In an effort to increase the awareness of the quality of the Mozilla JavaScript Documentation, I would really enjoy if W3Schools was knocked off their place in Google for many top searches. Mozilla's documentation is top notch and they do deserve to have Google place weight on the links that are upon answers.

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    I don't know enough about SEO to tell whether it would have a measurable impact, but either way it sounds like a pretty cool idea.
    – Pekka
    May 3, 2014 at 16:48
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    It would for sure knock out W3schools.
    – Ryan
    May 3, 2014 at 16:49
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    It might - or not, depending on how Google weighs links from a single site, and whether they will outweigh the rest of the web that foolishly links to W3Schools. But I totally agree it's worth a try.
    – Pekka
    May 3, 2014 at 16:50
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    Given this "Remove nofollow on links deemed reputable" I'm surprised that they're not already un-nofollowed-ed... May 3, 2014 at 17:15
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    Can we also implement the opposite and always append rel="nofollow" to W3Schools links no matter what?
    – animuson StaffMod
    May 3, 2014 at 20:49
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    I think the question is, should Stack Exchange be officially endorsing the MDN as a quality resource? I'm not so sure about that. May 4, 2014 at 0:32
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    Who is the authority in JavaScript reference then?
    – Ryan
    May 4, 2014 at 0:33
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    I'd almost prefer to see a per-site-configurable (editable by mods and high-rep users, or something like that) list of sites that never get nofollow, or at least where the threshold for nofollow removal is something super-low. May 4, 2014 at 0:45
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    @BillyMailman: Yes, I'd expect the same for MSDN links. They may be competing with themselves rather than other useless sites, but I hate to see the WinCE 6.0 version of an API at the top of the search results when the Win7 version is what I really want.
    – Gabe
    May 4, 2014 at 1:07
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    @Gabe: it would also be interesting to see if we can give preference to the MSDN links which do not include the version numbers, though I expect that would require community editing first. May 4, 2014 at 1:25
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    @OneKitten it doesn't have to be a matter of Stack Exchange officially endorsing Mozilla Developer Network. Stack Overflow is user-generated content. The users can endorse it :P
    – user456814
    May 4, 2014 at 14:51
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    Nope, @Cupcake, it's the Stack Exchange team that would need to make the changes to remove the nofollow. (As you can see in the generated HTML of those dummy links in your comment.)
    – Arjan
    May 4, 2014 at 16:51
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    @Arjan that's not quite what I meant. By the very fact that we're discussing this right here right now, users are driving the decision on whether or not to endorse MDN.
    – user456814
    May 4, 2014 at 16:57
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    You wish, @Cupcake ;-)
    – Arjan
    May 4, 2014 at 16:59
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    Google should correct their algorithm. It is a crime that W3Schools has the top spot. May 5, 2014 at 5:00

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I'll take your word for it that MDN is a great source of documentation on the JavaScript implementation in Mozilla browsers.

But JavaScript and ECMAScript are standards, not controlled by development teams of individual browsers. And browser-specific extensions are not standard, no matter how much market share that browser has.

For that reason, I disagree with your desire to help implementation-specific documentation command the top spot on a Google search. I wouldn't want MSDN getting top search result for C++11 topics either. And I'm sure you'd be very unhappy if SO pushed MSDN to the top of JavaScript searches.

Naturally for information on the Mozilla XUL language, or Mozilla plugin model, MDN ought to command the top spot. Just as for Win32 APIs, MSDN should because it is the canonical reference for those.

That doesn't necessarily mean it's a good idea for Stack Exchange to be in the business of promoting those developer sites and helping them get PageRank.

So I say, keep nofollow on links to documentation that isn't vendor-neutral. And yes @animuson, nofollow on all w3schools links, because quality IS important.

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    MDN isn't really implementation-specific. developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/Reference/…
    – bjb568
    May 5, 2014 at 3:46
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    @bjb568: MSDN tries to cover the standard also, by including "Microsoft Specific" heading for extensions or deviations. But invariably, examples, recommendations, and everything else are based off what works best in a single implementation. But feel free to disagree. You won't hurt my feelings downvoting an answer on meta. And I don't use enough Javascript to know whether there exists any neutral documentation of sufficient quality, or if the only reasonable choices are which vendor's docs to use.
    – Ben Voigt
    May 5, 2014 at 3:50
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    Fine, it may work best on FireFox, but it's still the best documentation for all browsers.
    – bjb568
    May 5, 2014 at 3:51
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    @BenVoigt, have you used MDN? I use it as my primary ECMAScript reference. In fact, it is pretty accurate on cross browser support. I challenge someone to find a better ECMAScript reference for Chrome or Safari, than MDN. (MSDN is pretty good for IE.) May 5, 2014 at 4:59
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    MDN is a wiki, and pretty vendor-neutral when it comes to the basics. (It also offers documentation on building Firefox extensions, for example, but quite separately.)
    – Ry- Mod
    May 5, 2014 at 14:36
  • I agree. StackOverflow should put rel=nofollow on all outbound links that do not go to the StackExchange network. May 5, 2014 at 14:40
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    MDN also offers documentation for Chrome-specific features, e.g. the virtual FileSystem API: developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/WebGuide/API/File_System.
    – Rob W
    May 5, 2014 at 14:45
  • @Romoku That will have negative SEO implications for SO.
    – John Conde
    May 5, 2014 at 14:45
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    @JohnConde: Yeah, it’s working out really badly so far ;)
    – Ry- Mod
    May 5, 2014 at 14:46
  • @JohnConde I'm not that familiar with SEO. What kind of implications would it have and are they really that big of a concern? StackOverflow answers are usually on the first page of Google search results. May 5, 2014 at 14:51
  • I rmemeber a few years ago with SO having issues with scraper sites ranking higher than them in Google. They worked directly with Google to correct the issue. One of the changes they made was to link out to some authoritative sites as that is a ranking factor (one of many but one nonetheless). Apparently Google felt it was important for SO to make that change.
    – John Conde
    May 5, 2014 at 14:53
  • @Romoku, do you really want rel=nofollow on all outbound links? Then Remove nofollow on links deemed reputable should be reverted.
    – Arjan
    May 5, 2014 at 16:30

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