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I've seen a significant number of questions that could be answered with a simple {insert your favorite search engine here} search.

Basically, had the Asker simply typed their question into Google they would have gotten an answer within the first few search results.

How do we deal with that? Leave a comment? ("What have you searched for?") Give them a LMGTFY.com link? Do our own search, find the best resource and use that to form our own answer (and thus get some cheap-and-easy reputation in the process)?

I mean, this would seem to fit well within the "do your research" admonition given to new users.

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You should downvote questions that are poorly researched. Not even bothering to do a simple web search using the terms already in the question itself is about the best example of insufficient research. The tooltip specifically says that you should downvote questions that are poorly researched.

You can comment if you want, but you should make a point of trying to be polite and constructive when doing so. Posting a LMGTFY link is banned specifically because it is a rude and unconstructive means of telling someone that they didn't do specific research. Asking them what research they did, what they found, and what problems they had solving their problems after reading it is one approach; if people did research and didn't explain it in the question, then they can simply edit that it, if not, then it is a politer way of helping them realize that doing research is expected of them.

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  • True enough, but if the question is clear and specific it will be useful to people other than the OP.
    – Casey
    Commented Apr 21, 2014 at 13:41
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    @emodendroket If the question can be solved by throwing that same question into google then no, it won't. Either people searching for the answer to said question will find that other canonical source in future searches instead of your question, or you're only ever pulling traffic away from some other source that would have solved their problem. There is never a problem solved that wouldn't have been otherwise, so nobody is really being helped.
    – Servy
    Commented Apr 21, 2014 at 13:43
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    Well, frankly, there are very few (almost no) questions on SO that couldn't have eventually been worked out by the OP if they knew the right place to look or the right way to search.
    – Casey
    Commented Apr 21, 2014 at 13:44
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    @emodendroket There are plenty of situations in which the author couldn't solve it with a simple web search. There are plenty of questions that are inherently ill suited to web searches; they could use terms overloaded to mean other things, don't have specific terms defining what's going on at all, the author could not know what the term is for the relevant topic, they could be using the wrong term, some topic areas just aren't well documented and don't have a lot of quality web articles out there, etc.
    – Servy
    Commented Apr 21, 2014 at 13:46
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    The idea of what searches are "simple" is inherently subjective and probably has a lot to do with the asker's level of experience.
    – Casey
    Commented Apr 21, 2014 at 13:47
  • @emodendroket Yes, it is subjective. You as a reader will need to use your judgement when deciding whether the problem is one that could be solved with the author's level of expertise. This is not an objective fact about the question, it is a subjective judgement call. When taking the question itself and throwing it, word for word, into google results in an answer you would feel comfortable posting as an answer to that question, then that judgement call is easy. When you can't find the answer yourself it's also easy. There's a lot of room in the middle for judgement.
    – Servy
    Commented Apr 21, 2014 at 13:48
  • I was being facetious about the LMGTFY link. I know that's rude. Commented Apr 21, 2014 at 14:19
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    @JonCrowell For some people, perhaps it is. This is a major problem that should be fixed. The site shouldn't be preferable to doing even cursory research for a problem. If it is, then the site can't scale, and will fail to accomplish its purpose.
    – Servy
    Commented May 23, 2014 at 16:38
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    @JonCrowell The fact that SO isn't scaling just fine completely supports my point.
    – Servy
    Commented May 23, 2014 at 17:27
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    @JonCrowell SO does suit me specifically because it is the one site in which there is a standard, where questions like these aren't welcome, and I do have tools to get rid of them. If you just want to be able to have a human google searcher for you because typing your question into google is to hard for you then I suggest you use another site that doesn't have a problem with that.
    – Servy
    Commented May 23, 2014 at 17:38
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    @JonCrowell Ideally because the site would improve it's ability to close/delete inappropriate questions before they are able to be answered, forcing you to either provide quality contributions, which you seem unwilling to do, or to leave. If that doesn't happen, then eventually the valuable contributors will be driven away from the site to one that can more effectively uphold a high standard of quality, and you'll move there because this site won't provide quality answers.
    – Servy
    Commented May 23, 2014 at 17:48
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    @JonCrowell "more efficient than doing research, … people who object to SO … should STFU" The site is intended for professional and enthusiast programmers. Those are the sort who typically enjoy learning about the technologies that they're using, and welcome an opportunity to do a bit of research about it. Some questions are so good because they're the sort that a professional programmer, after spending a fair amount of time researching, is still stumped about! That's what we want: challenging, non-obvious, questions. Commented Jun 2, 2014 at 15:09
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    @JonCrowell Those are the values the the site was founded under, and the goals that the site's current mission states as being what the goal of the site is. What you want is very explicitly in conflict with the site's stated goals, so the question that you want to ask are not welcome here, regardless of whether or not you want them here.
    – Servy
    Commented Jun 2, 2014 at 18:39
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    @JonCrowell I stated cold hard facts, not an opinion that can be disagreed with, so that means that you're just flat wrong.
    – Servy
    Commented Jun 3, 2014 at 18:14
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    @JonCrowell You can disagree that the world is round too if you want. it doesn't make it any less incorrect.
    – Servy
    Commented Jun 4, 2014 at 20:26
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Stack Overflow is often among the first results when you search for these sorts of things. I don't know about you, but there are few things I find more infuriating than Googling something and coming to a page with some smart-aleck saying I should have just Googled my question.

I think you should just answer them (if you're so inclined) or leave them alone. If there are duplicate questions obviously you can point to those.

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    Yes, there are topics that are not solved by simply throwing the question into Google, but there are also a lot that are solved by searching them. Assuming that no topic will ever be solved through a web search is specifically contrary to the site guidelines that say that questions should be well researched.
    – Servy
    Commented Apr 21, 2014 at 13:41
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    I'm not really disputing that; what I'm saying is that a pile-on of people saying "Why didn't you Google it, LOL" ends up polluting future Google searches with unhelpful nonsense.
    – Casey
    Commented Apr 21, 2014 at 13:43
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    Which is why such questions shouldn't be answered, and should ideally just be deleted. They're not useful to exist at all.
    – Servy
    Commented Apr 21, 2014 at 13:44
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I think you should put the simple search as answer, I mean give the terms of the search, could be a good tip , not results of the search , I meant please search for "term1 term2 [term3]...", may be a good help , when we know that a simple web search give you the results, the person which asked the question may don't know what terms should give you the answer . Especially when the terms are not in the nature language of the person.

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    assuming that you are ok with that kind of questions, adding a simple search result is not a good answer. You can do it, but you have to say why you think those results contain relevant information. trivial answers are worse than trivial questions. Commented Jun 2, 2014 at 4:12
  • I see both sides... If a similar question already exists on SO then I think closing as a dupe would be the way to go. Maybe add a helpful comment with what terms could be used in a web or SO search to get the answer. If not a dupe, why not post an answer on SO to help people that might use SO search along with links to the web resources used, and possibly the search terms that would have given the answer on the web. I believe searching is a skill... Commented Jul 31, 2017 at 11:56
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Why do you have to "deal with" such questions? You don't even have to read them if you don't want to. If you'd like to engage, just answer the question. If you don't want to answer the question or aren't interested, go watch some TV or do something else instead.

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    These questions drive away experts, consume time that could be better spend on quality and useful questions, they encourage the behavior thus creating a negative feedback loop, they generate a ton of noise which drowns out the useful signal of the site, inhibit the ability of people to develop the necessary skills of research and problem solving that are required to be in this field, etc.
    – Servy
    Commented May 23, 2014 at 16:40
  • @Servy I disagree.
    – tadasajon
    Commented May 23, 2014 at 17:25
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    Then use any other programming Q/A site in existence other than SO. It was specifically designed to be a site that would have a high standard of quality, expect questions to be well formed and researched. It is virtually unique in that regard. It is in fact the reason for its success. By removing those distinguishing features and turning it into yet another programming forum it would completely kill the site, for all of the reasons that this site's competition have failed to be succesful.
    – Servy
    Commented May 23, 2014 at 17:29
  • @Servy well I guess you'll have to give up on SO if you can't take it.
    – tadasajon
    Commented May 23, 2014 at 17:33
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    Or we can just downvote/close/delete these questions instead of destroying the entire site. Personally I prefer that option. If, in the event that people like you succeed in destroying this site's values and turn it into yet another worthless Q/A site then yes, I guess I'll have to leave. Hopefully it doesn't come to that.
    – Servy
    Commented May 23, 2014 at 17:35
  • @Servy I don't know where you get this notion that SO is being destroyed. To the contrary it is an excellent resource that works wonderfully.
    – tadasajon
    Commented May 23, 2014 at 17:36
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    A site turning from a useful resource to an un-useful one isn't something that happens overnight. There is a huge amount of inertia behind the site; it takes a long time to fall, and fortunately there are plenty of things that (I hope) can still be done to prevent its devolution. Currently we're just seeing warning signs of problems down the road, and smaller problems that are still things we can cope with. The problem is that the low quality contributions, are increasing, and low quality contributors, such as yourself, aren't being ejected from the site effectively.
    – Servy
    Commented May 23, 2014 at 17:42
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    As low quality posts increase over time, it the overall post quality starts to go down. Currently it hasn't gotten to the point that many of the site's experts have actually left, but if the problems aren't dealt with, eventually they will leave in great enough numbers for the site to lose its critical mass. At that point answer quality will begin to devolve greatly, and the site will cease to become useful beyond being a record of already existing content.
    – Servy
    Commented May 23, 2014 at 17:44
  • @JonCrowell I somewhat agree with both you and @Servy even though I downvoted you. Its up to your discretion. If the question is not in a closeable category then answering it or leaving it alone are both fine options. I understand your frustration but this site's stated goal is to create a library of answers to every programming question not directly to help individuals. So often people post out of desperation and are quite suprised that a Q/A site doesn't give them an A. But the reality is if their question must serve the site's goals their desperation is irrelevant.
    – nsfyn55
    Commented May 23, 2014 at 20:57
  • @nsfyn55 I disagree that the site's goal is not to directly help individuals. Often times people post simple questions out of frustration and then someone answers the simple question and everyone is happy. Later, when someone else has the same simple question and they google it, the SO post with the supposedly stupid question will be the top result and everyone is happy again. Questions that aren't good questions or don't have good answers fall off the top search results, so no big deal there, either.
    – tadasajon
    Commented May 23, 2014 at 21:13
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    I agree. The example you provide isnt a closeable question. It's probably a good question. If a question already exists or isn't answerable it should be curated to reduce noise and keep the quality of the library intact. Also note I said directly. In most cases succinct questions both yield answers for the OP and serve the goals of the site
    – nsfyn55
    Commented May 23, 2014 at 21:27

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