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Up until recently, the tag usage guideline of read,

Use for questions about Google Apps Script Editor which do not involve actual script development issues.

By this definition, Most questions should be off-topic.

Currently it reads,

Use for questions about Google Apps Script Editor (the web application IDE from Google) not for questions about other IDEs

Unlike other IDEs like , all code are finally saved and run in the same IDE, even if you can initially develop in any other IDE. Anyone familiar with apps script is also familiar with the default IDE and thus does not need a separate tag and it causes harm by hiding questions from potential answerers.

Propose synonymizing/merging to the main tag .

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I disagree because...

Stack Overflow scope goes beyond questions directly related to writing code, it also includes questions about tools commonly used by programmers.

From https://stackoverflow.com/help/on-topic

What topics can I ask about here?

Stack Overflow is for professional and enthusiast programmers, people who write code because they love it. We feel the best Stack Overflow questions have a bit of source code in them, but if your question generally covers…

  • a specific programming problem, or
  • a software algorithm, or
  • software tools commonly used by programmers; and is

  • a practical, answerable problem that is unique to software development

…then you’re in the right place to ask your question!

But agree that regarding that the tag excerpt/wiki could be improved.

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  • Where in my post did I say software tools/IDE are off-topic?The first definition is vague where it fully excludes any "script development issues".It can be interpreted to exclude debugging,script saving/running or almost anything related to script development,but something exclusive to the editor- say, "How to change the menu button color to black". Even if that can be considered software tools usage, My entire point is: Anyone familiar with apps script is also familiar with the default IDE and thus does not need a separate tagand it causes harm by hiding questions from potential answerers
    – TheMaster
    Aug 10, 2020 at 23:28
  • It looks that you are questioning the current tag excerpt, otherwise what is the point of mentioning to previous one? By the other hand the way to handle tags that causes harm is called "burnination"
    – Wicket
    Aug 11, 2020 at 13:33
  • Burninate has special criteria. Causes harm isn't the only criteria. The point of mentioning of previous guideline is that, that is the guideline used for 3 years and the latest guideline barely for 1-3 months. You can't judge all the questions in this tag by only looking at the excerpt that is only been for a few months.
    – TheMaster
    Aug 11, 2020 at 13:36
  • The root cause of questions "being hidden" from potential answerers isn't this tag. It's very likely that root cause is that the askers of those question don't know how to ask a good question. Anyway, did you know that there are >4k questions open, without any answers that currently have google-apps-script?
    – Wicket
    Aug 11, 2020 at 13:51
  • Does this tag offer any advantage over just google-apps-script tag? Why is segregation necessary? If you want debugging or editor related questions, Wouldn't it be easier to just search for google-apps-script+ editor?
    – TheMaster
    Aug 11, 2020 at 14:07
  • @TheMaster This tags is helpful, among other things, to find canonical questions / dup candidates for questions about the GAS editor. Relaying only on google-apps-script makes it very hard and is becoming harder and harder as the this tag popularity increases. By the other hand having this tag makes it possible to share specific resources i.e. bugs / feature requests, canonical questions, etc.
    – Wicket
    Aug 11, 2020 at 14:10
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    By the other hand, this tag is an essential part of what I do every "night", "... try and take over the world!" (images.app.goo.gl/9n5eNFKnJr12J86h6) :)
    – Wicket
    Aug 11, 2020 at 14:16
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Community consensus reached. Sub tag synonymized to parent tag by community.

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I agree that the tag can be synonymized, as:

  1. It is not a major part of the platform (and the new editor based on Monaco is in the works by Google).
  2. The useful info from the wiki can be preserved in the main tag wiki page.

Also, some heavyweight tags adopted the same approach of making branching tags synonyms of the main tag:

  1. with , , and
  2. with and
  3. with and
  4. with and

The alternative proposal below is not considered anymore, voted for synonymizing. The matter is closed in favor of the original proposal.


Proposal

Synonymize to .

Reasoning

There are several tags that represent entities that constitute the structure of a singular Apps Script project (others are: and ), en masse map a domain sufficiently different from the broader , dealing with script project management, deployment, debugging, associating Cloud Projects, and going through Google's Oauth verification process for applications.

This will also help to keep usage guidelines and references to useful resources visible (ideally paired with a canonical Q&A containing detailed info), whereas in the main platform tag they will likely drown under the amount of info there already is.

The scope of the question about will also be sufficiently described if used like this (but used with the main tag does not entail that it is about the Editor):

and or

References

  1. Official guide on Script Projects
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    Most actions mentioned like dealing with script project management, verification process are highly unlikely to be considered to be ontopic. Even if they are, they're not about programming and border line super-user category and don't warrant a new tag. Neither is google-apps-script-menu or google-apps-script-dashboard. Furthermore, none of these branches are recognizable or usable easily by new users. It'll be a retagging mess. Strongly Disagree. Also against google-apps-script-project. Use google-cloud-platform or google-oauth instead.
    – TheMaster
    Aug 10, 2020 at 8:40
  • @TheMaster - that's exactly what I propose - either synonymize or merge into a single google-apps-script-project. About google-apps-script-menu - that's different, I think it should be merged into main too. That said, I disagree that script project issues are off-topic here: also part of the domain is importing/exporting projects and clasp issues Aug 10, 2020 at 8:43
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    Also against google-apps-script-project. Use with google-cloud-platform or google-oauth should be sufficient.
    – TheMaster
    Aug 10, 2020 at 8:46
  • @TheMaster - the problem is that GCP is much broader, it is not a correct substitute for the script project ( in fact, the only part of GCP that is relevant here are default and standard Cloud Projects ). google-oauth is also much broader and intersects with Google Sign-in and Identity platform as a whole Aug 10, 2020 at 8:47
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    Why not? Split tags allow for such overlap. I disagree with the notion that all tags should be narrow. ( in fact, the only part of GCP that is relevant here are default and standard Cloud Projects You're just seeing the initial overlap.. but it can go deeper - say, a shared GCP with another project, that is not even related to apps script.
    – TheMaster
    Aug 10, 2020 at 8:50
  • The problem I have with it is that google-apps-script + google-cloud-platform are just two platform tags. Our main tag serves visibility to SMEs well, the other includes a broad spectrum of issues not related to Apps Script at all, the same goes for google-oauth. I am not arguing for sub-tagging, but I think 1-2 branches (that represent a domain of issues) should remain. Aug 10, 2020 at 8:56
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    Exactly why a separate tag for intersection between two platform tags are unnecessary. There won't be enough questions. Furthermore SMEs in apps script are not well versed in GCP. The GCP expertise is needed in such situations.A eg would be javascript. JS deals with a broad variety of issues, but when tagged with google-apps-script, they only answer if it's within their expertise and where GAS expertise is lacking.
    – TheMaster
    Aug 10, 2020 at 9:04
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    I think that google-apps-script-project is unnecessary. It's barely used, very loosely defined, and there are better tags which fit it. google-apps-script-project should be synonymised to google-cloud-platform and google-apps-script-editor to google-apps-script. Aug 10, 2020 at 9:12
  • @TheMaster that's not what I mean at all, quite the opposite - I referred to google-cloud-platform. That said, if there existed a cloud-platform-project that is a synonym of google-cloud-platform I might consider switching to google-apps-script + google-cloud-platform or logging or ide depending on the situation. Aug 10, 2020 at 9:12
  • @RafaGuillermo - I think we have a misunderstanding here, Apps Script projects have very little to do with Cloud Platform, and can't be made a synonym. See the whole chapter of official guide: developers.google.com/apps-script/guides/… Aug 10, 2020 at 9:14
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    You're speaking as if google-apps-script-project is different from gcp. It's not. It's the same thing attached to google-apps-script.
    – TheMaster
    Aug 10, 2020 at 9:15
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    @OlegValter Apps Script Projects are GCP projects on the backend. If it's not manually tied to a GCP project then it has its own unique identifier anyway. If it's a question not directly related to the GCP side of things then I see no reason for google-apps-script-project to not be a synonym of good old google-apps-script. Aug 10, 2020 at 9:17
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    @TheMaster, I apologize for insisting, but how about a direct quote from docs? "every Apps Script project has an associated Google Cloud Platform project". They are not identical, that said, I do not say they are not intricately connected. Aug 10, 2020 at 9:17
  • @RafaGuillermo although I disagree with the notion of them being identical (if they were, you could manage libraries and manifests through GCP directly, also Properties are part of the apps script project that are not available in GCP) and think that the confusion arises due to them being interconnected (especially because one cannot live without another), it is not my intention to hinder the effort - if I am in the minority here, I am ready to accept it as a synonym. Aug 10, 2020 at 9:23
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    I remember 1 or 2 issues about the logs showing up late or not showing at all. Again, Don't think it warrants a separate tag. Coming back, you're right about script projects vs gcp. . Yes it's in the official doc. But what the public perceives is more important.. I as a gold badge holder couldn't differentiate it just by it's name(until you clearly said the difference) How will new users or other users think about it? It's a ambigous tag at best
    – TheMaster
    Aug 10, 2020 at 9:44

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