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I post this because my question was edited because I used the word "stupid" two times. "Stupid".

And the word was not intended to offend anyone, as you can see in the context of the previous link.

I read this Meta Q&A, and ok, I agree, vulgar language should be avoided. But "Stupid"? Used in that way? I don't know, let me know, maybe I'm wrong.

PS: Quoting George Carlin, I want a list :D

EDIT: I think the Should I remove 'fluff' when editing questions? question is not a duplicate of my question, because in my opinion there's a prevention against "bad" words used as intensifiers.

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    Having unnecessary statements like "the usual stupid default icon" instead of "the default icon" does at least not improve your post.
    – BDL
    Commented Jun 10, 2019 at 9:08
  • Note that edits like this often happens because words throw simple quality control mechanisms, such as SmokeDetector, FireAlarm, or SEDE queries looking for keywords to identify bad posts. While I can't find it on MetaSmoke, Bonfire is currently down so I can't see if it popped up there.
    – Erik A
    Commented Jun 10, 2019 at 9:10
  • @ErikA: so there's a list! And "stupid" could be on the list? I want the list :D Commented Jun 10, 2019 at 9:31
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    The default icon was designed by an UX artist who spend 8 hours on it to get it right. Calling it "stupid" at least offends them.
    – rene
    Commented Jun 10, 2019 at 9:36
  • @gnat: People, seriously, you're out. Commented Jun 10, 2019 at 9:43
  • @rene: I think your comment is an offense to UX Designer's intelligence. Commented Jun 10, 2019 at 10:00
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    I might underestimate how long it takes to create an icon. I certainly have respect for these professionals and the products they deliver. None of which I find stupid. Not sure where you make up that I'm offending the intelligence of those pros'.
    – rene
    Commented Jun 10, 2019 at 10:04
  • Well, you seem to be set on disregarding the effort of other users. I was editing your post to make it better, but it looks like you take it personally and prefer to go back to a worse version. The screenshot was helpful because it allowed users to have all the information without having to go another post (which could be deleted at later point, rendering the question less useful for future visitors). The "EDIT" line I removed because those shouldn't be added. Posts should read naturally. Good luck, I'm out.
    – yivi
    Commented Jun 10, 2019 at 10:08
  • @rene: do you really think I said that icon is stupid because I don't like it, or I think it's bad, or I think it's useless? Now you're offfending your and my intelligence. Commented Jun 10, 2019 at 10:09
  • At least we achieved that. Someone had to be offended here.
    – rene
    Commented Jun 10, 2019 at 10:11
  • @yivi: the screenshot is useless, there's the link. And the link is to the editing history, so can't be removed. So I'm following your suggestion and remove fluff. Commented Jun 10, 2019 at 10:11
  • @MarcoSulla It's not just a list, but heuristic algorithms. This may not have triggered them, but avoiding words like that altogether allows us to more easily identify questions like this entire site is stupid. Also remember the site is international and for a wide audience, with wide cultural differences in what is and what's not offensive.
    – Erik A
    Commented Jun 10, 2019 at 10:12
  • I've already explained how it is not useful. Apparently you didn't read it. Sorry, I said I was out, and here I am. Now I'm truly out. I'm going to buy an aquarium and some fishes to feed, seems more productive.
    – yivi
    Commented Jun 10, 2019 at 10:13
  • @yivi: if you don't want to reply in a costructive way, you can say nothing, you know? Your comments are fluffy. Commented Jun 10, 2019 at 10:14

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Personally, I probably wouldn't have bothering editing.

But it seems like a noisy comments that do nothing to communicate your problem ("Well, it seems stupid", "the usual stupid default icon") and are worth removing from a post.

Not because they used the "stupid" word You could have said "silly", "dumb", "strange"; and it would still be unnecessary fluff, IMO.

What I'm trying to say is that it is perfectly reasonable for someone to edit that out on grounds of being unnecessary, and not because of some sort of crusade against vulgar language.

I don't believe it was a bad edit. Your question is improved by removing that. You can disagree and rollback if you want, but frankly I see no reason to.

Saying something is stupid is an opinion. Nothing wrong with that, but the way you presented that opinion in your question doesn't help in any way.

At most, it can open up the post to an argument about if it's actually stupid or not. So it can't help, and can hinder. Better to remove it directly.

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  • I rolled back and he rolled back again... Commented Jun 10, 2019 at 9:09
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    Well, they probably shouldn't engage in a rollback war. Again, you can rollback. It's your post. But why? The post is better this way.
    – yivi
    Commented Jun 10, 2019 at 9:10
  • Do you think I can rollback again so? Commented Jun 10, 2019 at 9:11
  • I believe you shouldn't, but it's up to you.
    – yivi
    Commented Jun 10, 2019 at 9:11
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    @MarcoSulla: I only see the edit, then your rollback. No other rollbacks from the editors side. The current edit is from me and fixed something unrelated to the discussion. Rolling that back is possible, but I don't see any reason to revert to wrong grammar.
    – BDL
    Commented Jun 10, 2019 at 9:11
  • It's not a bit oppressive? I mean, it can be superfluous, but there's lot of people that do unnecessary complicated question, that I read and ask to my self "What's the point"? No one touches them. I could added some unnecessary information like my CPU model and I'm sure no one would be edit it. Commented Jun 10, 2019 at 9:13
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    Actually, the "usual stupid icon" line is still there. I believe the question would be better without that.
    – yivi
    Commented Jun 10, 2019 at 9:13
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    You feel it's "oppressive" but only because you think this is related to the use of the word "stupid", and because someone believes it's "vulgar". The problem is not that, the problem is that it's distracting from your question and making your post worse.
    – yivi
    Commented Jun 10, 2019 at 9:14
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    @Marco You can be sure about many things, and yet be wrong. I edit irrelevant information from posts all the time. Logically, users are more careful when removing technical information that could conceivably have an impact on the question than irrelevant and noisy opinions.
    – yivi
    Commented Jun 10, 2019 at 9:20
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    Marco, maybe you feel that way because English is not your native tongue (it is not mine either), but saying something is stupid is an opinion. Nothing wrong with that, but the way you present that opinion in your question doesn't help in any way. At most, it can open up the post to an argument about if it's actually stupid or not. So it can't help, and can hinder. Better to remove it.
    – yivi
    Commented Jun 10, 2019 at 9:30
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    You are using it wrong. You can learn, or insist on using it wrong and get your posts improved by other users. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    – yivi
    Commented Jun 10, 2019 at 9:39
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    @MarcoSulla Another point: SO strives to be a professional q and a site, collecting useful information for future users. It is not a forum. Ideally, entries should look like something from a textbook: impersonal and somewhat formal. Commented Jun 10, 2019 at 9:43
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    Marco, you came to ask a question, or to be told you are right? Because it's starting to look the latter. You should be open to accept that your preconceptions are not correct.
    – yivi
    Commented Jun 10, 2019 at 9:47
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    @MarcoSulla Ah geez. Do you want help or do you want to push your agenda? Anyway, good luck. I'm out. Commented Jun 10, 2019 at 9:53
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    @MarcoSulla I don't want to be unfriendly, but since you do not seem to be open to suggestions I don't want to invest more time, sorry. Commented Jun 10, 2019 at 9:58

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