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I noticed that one of my old questions has a couple of broken links. I would like to update the links in the question, however it has been locked with "historical significance" so I am not able to fix these broken links.

Could someone help me to update the links in the question?

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    that QA should just be deleted dude. it has almost no relationship to SO
    – Fattie
    Sep 10, 2017 at 17:23
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    Is there some reason you chose not to host that image on the StackExchange Imgur...?
    – jpmc26
    Sep 10, 2017 at 18:57
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    @jpmc26: The question is from 2009. Stack Exchange's imgur account didn't exist until 2011. Sep 10, 2017 at 23:33
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    @IlmariKaronen The image has been rehosted. If you're reuploading it anyway, why not upload it to a location dedicated for this site? That's the question I asked.
    – jpmc26
    Sep 10, 2017 at 23:46

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You cannot edit a locked post under any circumstances. However, a moderator can.

So…I've made what I believe to be the requested updates to the question Makoto linked.

The idea of a historical lock is really to keep these things frozen in time and not to try and maintain them, but since the entire thing arguably becomes completely useless with the links dead, and since you've already gone through the effort of putting the edit together, I figured it won't do any harm to make these changes.

A custom moderator flag probably would have worked, too, depending on which moderator had handled it and how carefully you described what you wanted.

But whether a flag or a Meta post, please don't try and make a regular habit of this. Consider it a one-off favor. :-)

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    I'm really not seeing the value in editing this question. Like, genuinely straining to see why editing this would be a good idea. I'll defer to your judgment for now, but I'm seeking enlightenment.
    – Makoto
    Sep 9, 2017 at 20:30
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    @Makoto we can always do both: first we fix, then we dump the json to archive.org, then we delete.
    – Cœur
    Sep 10, 2017 at 2:43
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    @Makoto I'm not seeing the harm. It wasn't difficult to do, so why not? If you want to have a discussion about deleting the question entirely, then that's fine, but that really has nothing to do with whether or not this edit is made. Sep 10, 2017 at 11:54
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    @CodyGray, the situation is straightforward, the QA should be deleted. it does seem a bit weird (just one bloke's opinion) that you bother to edit it, since it's going to be deleted. I mean the next thing people will be saying is "Oh, Cody himself edited it, let's not delete it"
    – Fattie
    Sep 10, 2017 at 17:27
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    @Fattie: Well, it's not going to get deleted unless a ♦ mod deletes (or unlocks) it, since it's locked. And I doubt a mod is going to delete it, since it looks like a perfect example of what historical locking is meant for. Sep 10, 2017 at 23:39
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    I don't see harm either, but I don't see value. Perhaps when I've got a bit more time I'll actually drum up a discussion about its removal.
    – Makoto
    Sep 11, 2017 at 4:30
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You mean this one, right?

I really don't think this needs to be updated. It's not a fit for the current site anymore for these reasons:

  • It's overly subjective ("best")
  • It's a competition which offers bounties as rewards, which doesn't rub people the right way often
  • There's really no further value in updating any of the information; in fact, because it's out of date, it's a better candidate to be removed from the site

I'd recommend that it not be maintained. It's just not a fit here. I'd support its removal though. If you want to maintain the tournament then you could do so through some other platform/medium instead.

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    The question does have 52K views. In my opinion, there's a big difference between not actively maintaining it and not keeping the information up to date, and making sure the links are not dead to keep the post the same. It's a bad practice to have 404s on the site, because someone might buy the domain (if it's generating clicks) and might post god knows what on there.
    – Erik A
    Sep 9, 2017 at 19:45
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    @ErikvonAsmuth wait, isn't the worst practice keeping low quality post on the site?
    – Braiam
    Sep 9, 2017 at 19:48
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    @Braiam there are multiple high-view questions that aren't good questions for the site in it's current form, but are locked for historical significance. This question is one of them. That's why this is a problem, and why it can't be edited. I really agree with this policy, since other sites might link to it and it stays available, but there's a clear message that this isn't a good, on-topic question. That's why the views are relevant and I mentioned them in my first comment.
    – Erik A
    Sep 9, 2017 at 19:51
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    @ErikvonAsmuth so, become popular and throw quality out the window, right? Great!
    – Braiam
    Sep 9, 2017 at 19:53
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    @Braiam Nope, it's all about the "historical" part. It was a proper question then, but isn't now, but it has become a relevant part of the sites history (other sites and questions may refer to it, or it may have become relevant in some other way). That's why it gets to stay. If it wasn't a proper question then, it would've been deleted then.
    – Erik A
    Sep 9, 2017 at 19:56
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    Yeah, historical locks are problematic for like a hundred different reasons. The only thing worse is chaotic, unfettered deletion of a bunch of old, popular posts, breaking half of the Internet in the process. Sep 9, 2017 at 19:56
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    @ErikvonAsmuth: 50K isn't all that significant to me. Even more so in that it's really nothing new in terms of knowledge or useful information...it's just a contest. No one would be harmed if this question were removed from Stack Overflow today and put on another site. Nothing would break if this were the case.
    – Makoto
    Sep 10, 2017 at 0:16
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    It's not "just a contest". The answers provide solution to something that it's easy to imagine others wanting to implement. The question was also featured on Reddit, so that's a large amount of linkage. "put on another site" okay, what's your domain and access credentials so we can move it there? Sep 10, 2017 at 12:37
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    Don't delete content, especially since this can be moved to pcg.se just by slapping a [king-of-the-hill] tag on it. Sep 10, 2017 at 18:17
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    "This question exists because it has historical significance, but it is not considered a good, on-topic question for this site, so please do not use it as evidence that you can ask similar questions here. This question and its answers are frozen and cannot be changed." In other words, it is known to be a bad fit for SO. Nonetheless, it's a product of SO's "wild west" period, and its popularity is considered reason enough to leave it be. This question does a lot less harm than old software recommendation ones, which have lists of old software you probably shouldn't use.
    – jpmc26
    Sep 10, 2017 at 19:00
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    @Braiam: almost - be old and popular, and you'll be judged by the rules of your time. If a question is old and popular and isn't actively harmful (e.g. links to spam), it's maintained. You don't call the bulldozers to demolish the Tower of Pisa. Yes, we don't allow building leaning towers anymore - it's not a good idea for a lot of reasons. But it's not a good reason to destroy history, especially if it is the fruit of work of many people, and it turned out to be widely appreciated. What you do is to put it in safety and transform it into a museum, keep it clean and let people visit. Sep 11, 2017 at 1:29
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    Locked questions are steam locomotives in a museum. We don't build them anymore, don't allow them to run on regular tracks, they have all kind of defects and you wouldn't really take one to go to work tomorrow morning. But they have their beauty, lots of people put a lot of work in them and we like to keep them around and watch them, even if they don't conform to current rules about safety or pollution. If some obtuse bureaucrat says that all steam locomotives must be destroyed because rules, he's just serving the rules for rules' sake, forgetting that they are in place to serve people. Sep 11, 2017 at 1:42
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    @Makoto: This question is about Battleship AI algorithms. 50,000 views in the span of 8 years sure sounds like a lot to me, considering the extremely narrow topic compared to, say, something that would appeal to every Python programmer or anyone with jQuery experience working with Angular.
    – BoltClock
    Sep 11, 2017 at 4:32
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    Ugh. I didn't know it became a new Meta question. It gets tiring for people to obsessively try and create a policy out of every action that gets taken. Someone asked for [support], and I supported them. Sep 11, 2017 at 6:23
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    @Braiam: nobody has tried to fix the question because you cannot fix it - the very core of that question is off-topic for the current scope of Stack Overflow. The point is that you seem to think that you should delete by default unless the question is the most precious thing on the Internet. Quite the opposite; you should need a serious reason (offensive posts, spam or similar) to delete a question that was well tolerated at the time and where people spent hundred of man-hours. The total disregard for other people's work in the name of abstract purity that I see here drives me insane. Sep 11, 2017 at 10:29

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