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I have just failed an audit (and apparently I failed one too many - no triage for me for 2 days!). Apparently, the user is spamming/promoting in his answer.

Failed audit

I saw the comment of Bill, which made me want to put "Unsalvageable", but it was apparently in the answer that the spam was - not in the question!

As I couldn't see the answer, I thought the question itself needed improvement - not many informations, no research, etc. But should have I flagged as spam, even if the said-spam is in the answer? Or is the audit broken?

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  • I don't suppose you have a screenshot? The link is 10k only. Commented May 6, 2015 at 4:03
  • Oh, sorry! A second please @NathanTuggy
    – Docteur
    Commented May 6, 2015 at 4:03
  • The comment says It's fine to answer your own question, but (...) implying that this was a self-answered question that the OP posted for the sole purpose of adding an answer containing spam.
    – ivarni
    Commented May 6, 2015 at 4:59
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    Hence my question : should have I flagged even if the spam is not in the question? I mean, the question alone is okay.
    – Docteur
    Commented May 6, 2015 at 5:00
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    Should be improved is to gentle, that question should be closed, at least. There is no way any user in the helper queue can edit that question into shape.
    – rene
    Commented May 6, 2015 at 6:50
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    Triage review PSA: You're not using "needs improvement" correctly! Clicking "needs improvement" in Triage sends the question to the "Help and Improvement" queue to be improved by the community, not by OP. If you're using it on questions because the question doesn't contain enough information or OP didn't do research, this is not something that the community can fix and thus all you're doing is filling the HIQ with crap. Please instead review questions that need improvement by OP as "unsalvageable -> unclear" (or another close reason if one is more appropriate).
    – l4mpi
    Commented May 6, 2015 at 8:20
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    Oh; well, thank you! That needs improvement field is not too clear..
    – Docteur
    Commented May 6, 2015 at 8:30
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    @l4mpi Yeah that's really unclear. I just put needs to be improved when it's not giving enough information.
    – Loko
    Commented May 6, 2015 at 9:35

2 Answers 2

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I've added checks to ensure that only posts which were actually deleted by the system in response to spam flags are used for this purpose - this should avoid situations where posts deleted for other reasons (for instance, because they were created to host spam in answers, as was the case here) are used.

See: NSFW triage review audit

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We have multiple questions regarding the same subject. A similar question is : Can someone please explain why this question was flagged as spam?.

But should have I flagged as spam

You should have clicked on Unsalvageable.

There are 4 options available in the Triage review:

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For the audit question, it doesn't come under following categories:

  • Looks OK
  • Should Be Improved

Because, it doesn't look OK for sure and should be closed. It can't be improved by the community as it could only be improved by OP, so you shouldn't click Should Be Improved.

So, you are left with two options:

  • Unsalvageable
  • Skip

If you were not sure about it, you should have skipped it rather than simply clicking Looks OK.

It is not salvageable because as I already said, community won't be able to improve such a poor post which lacks a lot of information. Only OP could add more information. Community cannot research on it and add the expected content.

When you click on Unsalvageable, you would see this popup:

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Next, you need to select the reason you think the question should be closed:

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In short, the post was not OK, so your review was incorrect. And, of course, you failed the audit.

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  • I never said that the post was OK. However, the question is rather clear - it only needed efforts in formatting!
    – Docteur
    Commented May 8, 2015 at 7:28
  • There is another similar questions, which asks why is it flagged as spam. So, I have covered all the points. Since the other question is flagged as duplicate of this question. Commented May 8, 2015 at 7:31
  • I see, thank you for your answer. However, I still think that the question alone was not unsalvageable - don't you think that it was clear enough for the community to fix?
    – Docteur
    Commented May 8, 2015 at 7:32
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    @Docteur while my first impression was also unsalvagable is appropriate, on a second thought, the question is indeed almost clear: Give me the tables and datasets with most data: Here is the only issue: What consitutes most data, but I guess an answer in number of table entries would be enough and would have been acceptable.
    – martin
    Commented May 8, 2015 at 7:33
  • @Docteur You cannot expect the community to research and add the required content. The community will give it's hand to improve the posted content as far as possible. Commented May 8, 2015 at 7:33
  • @martin And what about the research effort? Commented May 8, 2015 at 7:34
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    If it was only for the research effort, you'd close almost all regex questions. Use a downvote for this reason, not a close vote.
    – martin
    Commented May 8, 2015 at 7:35
  • Firstly, there is no point comparing two completely different questions. Secondly, regex questions mostly which I answered, the question includes which regex function the user wants, or shows what he has tried and not getting desired output. Commented May 8, 2015 at 8:11
  • @martin By the way, OP reviewed as "Should be improved", and thus failed in audit. What could be the improvement you think? Commented May 8, 2015 at 8:26

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