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Lets be honest. English isn't the first language of many of our users and as a result there are now several language specific sites, for example in Portugese. However, it will take some time till there are SOs in every language, and I doubt that every language ever will be covered.

Now, one could argue that today one should learn English, and be somewhat proficient, at least to the point that one can communicate without problems. But overestimation of one's own capabilities leads to… interesting results.

The linked question is completely beyond comprehension, and at that point not salvageable, unless OP explains his intent a little bit better. With a little bit of imagination (and a big bottle of scotch), one can fathom an interesting gem inside that inscrutable post, which is a pity. And OP tries to clear things up, with mixed results.

Given OP's previous posts on SO, I got to the conclusion that his first language is German. Now, I know a little bit of German, and others might too, which brings me to this post's title:

Is it OK to encourage a user to add the question in their first language in the comments? After all, the comments are meant to clear things up.

If it's possible to do so in another language, great. If no one speaks Unicornian, well, that's a pity, but it's still better than reading only botched English.


EDIT: To clear things up: SO has a Non-English Question Policy, which is fine. This discussion is about temporary inclusion of another language in either the question or comments. The policy allows only the second. Either way, the community shouldn't be responsible to translate questions. It's just meant as an additional way clarify things, especially if the question has been closed as unclear.

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  • I've seen it done in the comments (I swear I even read a post recently on meta about it), and the comments seem like the right place to do it. But I have no idea if it's encouraged or even recommended. Jan 21, 2015 at 20:02
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    How about to take it to chat?
    – rene
    Jan 21, 2015 at 20:04
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    As long as you clear up the question in English, I don't see the harm in using the comments in this manner. Just don't file any bugs you might have when using the comments in a language other than English. Also, it should be "...explains his intent a little..." not "...explains his intend a little..." ;) Jan 21, 2015 at 20:04
  • @MikeMcCaughan: Waaaaaaah. Fixed. Thanks.
    – Zeta
    Jan 21, 2015 at 20:05
  • Non English posts will never receive the same moderation as English posts as only a subset of Stack Overflow users will be able to perform these vital tasks - and for that reason alone - I disagree. However I do think comments explaining that English is a second language for the poster are a good idea. Jan 21, 2015 at 20:09
  • @rene: Hm, that's one way. However, chat takes 20+ reputation, whereas a comment (up to 600 characters) can be read by many and doesn't require any rep at all.
    – Zeta
    Jan 21, 2015 at 20:10
  • @MattCoubrough: Oh shoot. I meant temporarily. Not permanent. Given that there's the "Non-English Question Policy", the question itself isn't really suitable.
    – Zeta
    Jan 21, 2015 at 20:12
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    I feel like if there's a question and you're able to guess that OP's native tongue is a language you know, it's totally fine to ask them to post a comment in their language, provided you then translate it and edit it into the original post.
    – eddie_cat
    Jan 21, 2015 at 20:16
  • @Zeta Temporary changes of language of an actual question (as opposed to comments) run the risk of the post becoming something of a chameleon question with meaning being lost in translation - A user could try and post both an English and Non-English version, but then there is the very real problem that both versions may not express exactly the same thing, making any answers in the worst case nonsensical. Would answers to Non English posts also temporarily be in the poster's native language and then later translated back into English? Jan 21, 2015 at 20:21
  • @MattCoubrough: Good point. Lets forget the "temporary question text" at all.
    – Zeta
    Jan 21, 2015 at 20:22
  • I think @rene has it spot on. Asking in comments adds unnecessary noise to the question - I think taking it to chat is the best place, you can communicate with the user in whatever language you're both comfortable with, and make any edits required.
    – Joe
    Jan 21, 2015 at 20:30
  • Well, the OP wasn't very thrilled with your approach. Assuming the brick was supposed to make sense. Indeed very incoherent, the only thing I got is that he really wanted to talk about something else but didn't want to use direct words to say what he really meant. Meta does tend to be unfriendly quickly when we all suck. Jan 21, 2015 at 22:41
  • @HansPassant: That's actually a German saying, literally translated. It's more common as "People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones." or "Those who are vulnerable should not attack others". It's a direct response to another proverb I posted (literally translated, to imitate his style). Since this felt like mockery, I deleted my comment some time later. My comment also contained an encouragement to post the question in German in a comment and spawned this question. Either way, I doubt that the question will see another day.
    – Zeta
    Jan 21, 2015 at 23:22

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No, you shouldn't encourage people to add questions on Stack Overflow in any language other than English. If they can't formulate their question in English, they're not likely to understand answers written in English, just as the vast majority of the rest of the community is not going to get much use out of questions and answers in German.

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  • Well, there's a big difference between active and passive vocabulary. Even though they cannot write a proper English question, they might understand a proper English answer.
    – Zeta
    Jan 21, 2015 at 20:07
  • Das ist doch gar nicht freundlich...
    – rene
    Jan 21, 2015 at 20:08
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    @Zeta This is an English language site. The vast majority of users here wouldn't understand a question written in German. Jan 21, 2015 at 20:11
  • @BilltheLizard: Sorry, I wasn't specific enough. It's about temporary additions. That being said, Josh's links brought me to blog.stackoverflow.com/2009/07/non-english-question-policy, so Non-English question text isn't feasible. But what about (temporary) comments?
    – Zeta
    Jan 21, 2015 at 20:19
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    @Zeta You're still left with answers they're probably not going to understand. I don't think anyone is going to stop you, but I don't think the resulting posts are going to be very useful. Jan 21, 2015 at 20:21

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