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Reasoning

I feel it's a missed opportunity for learning and improving the reviewer base.

If I want to scroll back through my browser history/list of recent reviews -- to see how other people interpreted the posts to either confirm I made a good judgement call or better understand where I may have gone wrong -- it would be very beneficial to be able to view the post in question if it were deleted.

Right now there's no way to evaluate what you did wrong or didn't catch if you voted against the majority on a post that gets removed unless you have +10k rep to see the post (as you would normally be able to for any deleted post) or by having an eidetic memory.


Caching services

@Sam pointed out that, at least for posts that were able to survive long enough to get scraped and cached, it is possible to use one of any number of web caching services.
While this is true I believe I'm right in assuming that the vast majority of posts that get the deletion treatment are caught early and never get the opportunity to live on in infamy.

As such, while it's a hit or miss workaround for the way things currently are it is certainly not a great solution to be suggested to people to use in the future.


Current functionality:

Currently this is how things appear for those below 10k for those above it.
(Thanks to @Sam for the examples)

Deleted Questions show as:

deleted question

Deleted Answers show as:

deleted answer


Rep limits

Following @DanNeely's point below about reducing my initial lower limit of 2k to 500 as these users have access to review queues where this may also occur has got me asking why not open the viewing of all reviews to any registered user?

Insight to and an improved transparency of how the community makes its decisions in relation to unwelcome material can only benefit any user that may want to see the process in action and thus lead them into making better decisions themselves about how they formulate their own posts and submitting flags that are more in line with how the community is actually acting upon flags.

If it were a question of hiding people's names from possible revenge type voting or harassment from low-rep users who have not proved they can act appropriately on the site then of course, keep a lower rep limit or mask them for user who wouldn't ordinarily be able to see them.


TL;DR

So I guess after some back and forth in the comments and a few edits the proposal has a few main points or choices.

Implement any of:

  • Allow any user to see a deleted post that they performed a review action on (including skip!).
  • Allow any user of sufficient rep to view a deleted post when viewed through a review link (not by normal in-line Question/Answer links).
  • Allow ANY user (optionally registered/logged in) to view a deleted post when following a review link.

Similar / duplicate

Brad has pointed out that he has a similar request for this on meta.SE with further reasoning from a moderator's perspective.

So moderators just got the ability to provide custom reasons when they ban users from review. Often, these bans are due to specific very bad reviews, like approving spam or non-answers. It will be common for us to give links to these bad reviews in the ban message that the reviewers will be presented with.

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I propose that reviewers of any reputation level be able to see posts that they reviewed, even ones that were later deleted, if they are presented with a link to their review. They already saw the post once, so there's no harm in showing it to them again, and reviewers are going to need to see why they made a bad call on a particular review.

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  • Or, if the post wasn't recently created, you could view a cached version. A good idea nethertheless +1.
    – Sam
    Commented Jul 11, 2014 at 13:32
  • I agree. But just to be clear, are you sure you can't see the review itself still (which would show you the part of the post you reviewed)? Or are you specifically asking to see the rest of the question/answers that weren't part of the review.
    – Joe
    Commented Jul 11, 2014 at 14:01
  • @Sam Guess that's a possibility but a bit of a round-a-bout solution. Also, although I'm not going over to data.so to confirm it, I feel that the vast majority of posts are caught and flagged very early on making it not a viable option. Commented Jul 11, 2014 at 14:02
  • @Joe The post itself. We can see the ways the votes were cast and access the stats of our fellow reviewers but it either shows "Answer not found" and the question text for a deleted answer or [actually can't recall the placeholder for a deleted question off the top of my head right now]. Commented Jul 11, 2014 at 14:05
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    @indivisible Of course; I did only suggest that as a partial workaround while the feature is being developed. It's still better than nothing though.
    – Sam
    Commented Jul 11, 2014 at 14:07
  • @Joe I just flicked back through my history for today's activity and only don't have any examples to check. If a post is closed/put on hold is is viewable but I think that deleted may 404. I'll come back and update once I have an example and can confirm/refute that. Commented Jul 11, 2014 at 14:09
  • @Sam I got what you meant but felt that pointing out the flaws might help promote the feature request as even a good workaround falls very short of helping all that much. Not an attack on your suggestion, just a snag list. Commented Jul 11, 2014 at 14:11
  • @indivisible Sure, I understand. D'you think it might be a good idea to state that in your proposal then?
    – Sam
    Commented Jul 11, 2014 at 14:14
  • Hmm, I don't have any accounts in the 2k-10k (or beta equivalent) range, unfortunately, so I can't check; but I thought reviews were always visible (the review itself, not the post).
    – Joe
    Commented Jul 11, 2014 at 14:16
  • @Joe Exhibit A.
    – Sam
    Commented Jul 11, 2014 at 14:19
  • Actually, Meta Stack Exchange is one such site for me, but I haven't reviewed any since deleted posts. But to be clear, what I'm referring to is clicking on the "Close" (or whatever action you took), rather than the post title.
    – Joe
    Commented Jul 11, 2014 at 14:19
  • @Sam yep, that's what I was thinking. For you, that works (you can see what it was you reviewed - the post starting with "I'm confused" - or does it show up as not visible?)
    – Joe
    Commented Jul 11, 2014 at 14:20
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    @indivisible Deleted posts simply say "question not found". (Exhibit B.)
    – Sam
    Commented Jul 11, 2014 at 14:30
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    IF the change is made, it should be available to 500-2000 rep users as well. They have access to the first post/late answer queue's and are more likely to need to fine tune their dis/approve threshold. Commented Jul 11, 2014 at 14:40
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I would suggest that this be implemented by allowing the review to be viewed, specifically (not the post in the general setting). IE, it should look something like this, even to a 2k user, when browsing in his/her past review history (clicking on the "Recommend Deletion" link): enter image description here

This wouldn't enable the original post to be visible directly.

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    Oh definitely. It would be wasted effort trying to bend the normal viewing procedure alongside the review review view (that has a nice ring to it) to take a user's previous review history into account for the entirety of all posts being displayed and wasted resources performing those checks. Commented Jul 11, 2014 at 15:52
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    I disagree. I think it should still be like that, but it would be much simpler to just add "X reviewed this post" to the list of "it's deleted can you still view it" checks... It would literally be harder to not "bend the normal viewing procedure" than it would to leave it as it is.
    – corsiKa
    Commented Jul 11, 2014 at 18:31
  • @corsiKa, not knowing for sure the way things are structured, abstracted and combined I can't speak to the actual difficulty but I assumed modifying the functionality of an already different view would be less controversial, easier to get accepted and less work to implement than a site-wide change. [open review --> if requester in reviewers --> display regardless] check in one relatively infrequently requested page than an extra verification on almost every single page load for the site. As I said, I may be wrong but wouldn't every request count when talking about a site/network of this scale? Commented Jul 11, 2014 at 23:23
  • I don't think that will ever be implemented for all reviews, as that's too much of a loophole, more a wide-open door. For all reviews you yourself made though... Commented Sep 18, 2015 at 14:15

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