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I want to opt out of OpenAI taking my answers on SO and other SE website. How do I do that? I tried to look in my settings and there is nothing.

As an European member of SO, should I check with my local GDPR lawyers to get that done?

See point 1 of The right to erasure (Articles 17 & 19 of the GDPR).

Alternatively, where is the option to remove all my previous answers?

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    You can't. By using SO, you effectively licence your content for others to use. Also removal of your content is likely to be treated as vandalism and reversed.
    – Paulie_D
    Commented May 7 at 19:09
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    OK, so question 2: where is my option to remove ALL my previous asnwers ? Again, if I can't, this is a violation of GRPD in many European countries. Commented May 7 at 19:09
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    It's not a violation of GDPR, it's not personal information so GDPR does not apply.
    – Paulie_D
    Commented May 7 at 19:10
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    I have rights to ask my data to be removed. Where is the option ? Commented May 7 at 19:11
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    dataprotection.ie/en/individuals/know-your-rights/… "You have the right to have your data erased, without undue delay, by the data controller, if one of the following grounds applies: Where your personal data are no longer necessary in relation to the purpose for which it was collected or processed." Commented May 7 at 19:12
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    The only right you have is to delete your personal information linked with the content you posted. Meaning the attribution.
    – Dalija Prasnikar Mod
    Commented May 7 at 19:12
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    The data erasure thing does not apply in this case for your posts, since you are licensing them to SO when you post them. Personal information is covered by GDPR laws, and you can request to erase that (not the posts themselves). But please, do check with your local GDPR lawyers.
    – yivi
    Commented May 7 at 19:13
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    You can at max dissociate yourself from all your posts, you can't take them down since you've granted Stack Overflow an irrevocable licence when you posted your content. Commented May 7 at 19:14
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    As an aside, because it apparently hasn't been mentioned yet, most or all data on SO (and elsewhere on the internet for that matter) is likely already in OpenAI's training data, even prior to the deal with them. The only thing you can do to avoid them getting your data is to stop producing more. Anything already out there is probably already in the dataset. Welcome to 2024 Commented May 7 at 19:18
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    Reminder that you can express dissent, dissatisfaction, or even anger without either violating the Code of Conduct or otherwise just ranting unproductively. As a bonus, it's usually more effective at getting what you want. Several comments have been removed (by multiple moderators, not just me) for being more inappropriate than they were useful.
    – Ryan M Mod
    Commented May 7 at 19:46
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    "I have rights to ask my data to be removed. Where is the option ?" No you don't. You legally forfeited any such right upon creating it and submitting it to the site. That's how the Creative Commons license works.
    – TylerH
    Commented May 7 at 20:21
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    "The licence I agreed to what before the obviosu grab of SO by the OpenAI mafia" That's what open-source licenses are like. You don't get to restrict who uses the thing that you publish, either prejudicially or in retrospect, simply because of an ideological conflict with users, ethical qualm with something they did or anything else. By design. The CC licenses are the same idea for writing (and artwork) rather than code. Commented May 7 at 20:35
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    Same as all of the authors of fiction: whatever you and your lawyers can claw back. Commented May 7 at 21:15
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    @JoelFalcou people feel it's normal here because OpenAI was training their models on our content even before this deal and could have continued to do so (via the data dumps) without the deal. The only difference would be that the data dump is done every three months whereas this deal probably gives them live data. We can't really stop the company from making the deal either, it's a problem that comes with the license we post our content with. Commented May 8 at 19:33
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    @JoelFalcou If you feel that you have a valid legal claim, why not just make it through the proper channels instead of lashing out here? At the end of the day, you chose to provide content under a free license to a for-profit company. Said company is now planning to use that data, you know, for profit. If you want to go all surprised Pikachu over that and set a few cars on fire, go right ahead, but that doesn't make us AI sycophants. Commented May 9 at 7:41

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Short-answer, you can't.

The longer answer is mostly in the comments, but the core issue is that:

  • Questions and Answers you've posted are not personal data as defined by the GDPR.

  • When you posted content on any SE site, you did so under the Licensing Terms of the Terms of Service:

    This means that you cannot revoke permission for Stack Overflow to publish, distribute, store and use such content and to allow others to have derivative rights to publish, distribute, store and use such content.

  • ... as well as the Creative Commons CC BY-SA 4.0 as discussed here

I am not a lawyer, but there may be some exceptions under the GDPR if:

  • Any of your posts contain personal information (which they shouldn't). In that case, you could Flag an answer to have a Moderator redact the personal content.

You can also, as mentioned in the comments, request to have your personal account information removed from the SE system. You seem to already be aware of this, however, as I believe I saw a comment from you to that effect (which I can't find or has now been deleted). As you know, this will keep the content on the website, but remove your personal account details from it, as with other questions/answers from deleted accounts that you've assuredly seen here.

Not that I believe you intend to do so, but for any users considering it, please keep in mind that self-deleting existing content which is considered useful here may be a violation of the Code of Conduct and would likely result in the content being undeleted and locked.

Also from your comments:

The licence I agreed to what before the (OpenAI Deal)

This does not matter, of course. The SE/OpenAI deal does not appear to violate the existing agreement between you and SE. You cannot revoke your "irrevocable" license you have given to SE on this basis. If you feel it does violate the existing licensing terms, you can, of course, consult an attorney who is more of an expert in IP/licensing disputes (vs. GDPR), but as you can imagine, this will likely be expensive and fruitless.

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    How can they prove that anyone agreed to the terms of service? I don't get how those can be legally binding since nobody actively signed anything or identified themselves. How can SO prove that a specific person has been informed and is agreeing on the terms? Obviously a deal which one party wasn't informed about and/or didn't agree upon by explicitly signing it is not valid.
    – Lundin
    Commented May 8 at 7:59
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    @Lundin they have this note at the sign up page: "By clicking “Sign up”, you agree to our terms of service and acknowledge you have read our privacy policy." One can argue this in court but since this notice is IMO put in a noticeable spot its going to be difficult to win. Of course one can say they didn't read the actual terms but that's entirely on the user. Commented May 8 at 8:13
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    @AbdulAzizBarkat 1) That was added after a whole lot of users had already signed up. 2) They have changed the ToS retroactively, making the terms invalid to those who had already signed up 3) They still can't prove that one particular physical person agreed to it/was informed about it. Could be a friend, a hacker, a burglar, a cat walking across the keyboard.
    – Lundin
    Commented May 8 at 8:17
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    They only need to "prove" anything if sued about it. You can argue that your account was created by your cat if you want to sue them. I'd check with an actual lawyer. Maybe all your posts belong to your cat now.
    – yivi
    Commented May 8 at 8:21
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    @Lundin I'll leave point 1 & 2 upto the company, but point 3 wouldn't really help you. If you say that your friend created the account it will only pull your friend along into the mess, if you read the terms of service you'll see there is a clause for indemnification meaning your friend then takes all responsibility if you sue Stack Overflow with regards to your usage of their account. I'm quite sure there would be some clause somewhere that prevents you from sharing accounts as well. Commented May 8 at 8:24
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    @Lundin "Whoever clicked some accept button isn't important" then you can't really sue for the account you talk about, since you are effectively a third party (Even proving that you are the actual author of your content on Stack Overflow becomes difficult in that case). That argument basically nullifies any claim you could have made. Point 1 & 2 from your comment is what you can actually argue upon. Commented May 8 at 9:04
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    @Lundin not really, if a third person created the account for you Stack Overflow could argue that the content could have also been posted by them. You could bring the third person in but then comes the indemnification clause and the third person has also now broken the terms of service since they require the account holder to be an individual. Anyway this is getting a bit off-topic, lets end this conversation here. Commented May 8 at 10:20
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    "Questions and Answers you've posted are not personal data as defined by the GDPR." - yes they are, at least if they are associated with your name! Far too many people assume "personal data" is a synonym of "PII"; it is not. The GDPR defines as personal data all information relating to an identifi[ed/able] natural person. Here's a Dutch lawyer specialising in internet law specifically saying the authorship relation counts and thus online posts and messages are personal data: blog.iusmentis.com/2018/04/03/…
    – Mark Amery
    Commented May 8 at 12:52
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    (None of this is to say that the GDPR grants anyone a right to have their posts deleted. For one thing, the Right to Erasure has exceptions; perhaps some apply. For another, I would assume anonymisation, which Stack Overflow offers, is a valid way to implement a Right to Erasure request since it results in the data no longer being personal data (although puzzlingly guidance about Right to Erasure I can find online, including from the UK's privacy regulator doesn't mention this option at all).
    – Mark Amery
    Commented May 8 at 12:58
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    @MarkAmery Fair enough - I think it's probably more accurate to say, though, that the posts themselves are not personal data, but may contain personal date. As noted in my answer, the user certainly has the right to remove any personal data in their posts. For a "name", however, the user is perfectly free to do that simply by using an anonymous username. Then their posts will not have the "name" PII. Commented May 8 at 15:08
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    Best way to fight this is to stop providing content, see how SO reacts losing its users. Commented May 9 at 3:03
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    Best way was to not post here, even before open AI was founded. Commented May 9 at 11:16
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    @LuisMachuca There are a lot of questions without good answers surrounding the legality of how SO has handled licensing, particularly wrt. license upgrades. I think the only way we'll get an answer is if someone involves lawyers. Commented May 9 at 17:19
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    The best way to protest is to no longer contribute. I'm not in the top 1% like Glyph mastodon.social/@glyph/112412335865418867 but like them, I will not contribute to the creation of an automated data laundering machine, built for the express purpose of making my work in open source invisible, and for denying me power githubcopilotlitigation.com matthewbutterick.com/chron/… I suggest we all do the same bristoluniversitypress.co.uk/resisting-ai
    – NickleDave
    Commented May 9 at 17:53
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    @PresidentJamesK.Polk While in most situations, I agree that vote brigades are bad, I think upvoting a meta post (assuming no fraudulent means are used) as described there is a completely reasonable way to express an opinion on matters relating to how the site is run, and certainly a better one than defacing content on a site that is, despite being run by a for-profit company, nonetheless a public resource. After all, one needs to have contributed to the site somehow in order to be able to vote here, so that ensures voters have at least some stake in the issue.
    – Ryan M Mod
    Commented May 9 at 22:37
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As alternative, you can leave Stack Overflow, as I just did. My account is going to be deleted in the next 24 hours.

The only message we can give, is leave the site in a huge number and never contribute to it again. Without users the value of SO will plummet.

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    I understand what you say. But are you aware that this "alternative" does nothing to prevent that the content you provided gets used by OpenAI, right?
    – yivi
    Commented May 10 at 9:24
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    I think they know that, and they don't care.
    – F1Krazy
    Commented May 10 at 10:22
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    You are aware that AIs/LLMs/everyone already were allowed to use the content on SO? It is and has been already free for everyone. The partnership with OpenAI does not change that. Commented May 10 at 13:03
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    Exactly. It's no different from any permissively-licensed open source project. You cannot control who uses your contributions and for what purpose. If you're not ok with that, don't contribute. Commented May 11 at 15:59
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    @stackprotector SO content is published under a CC BY-SA license, so it's only "free for everyone" if they follow the license, which requires providing attribution and sharing derivative works under a compatible license.
    – endolith
    Commented May 12 at 22:44

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