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Observations:

There are a large number of quite simple questions that people come across as hurdles to progressing their understanding, and these can be answered without too much effort (for someone who has already overcome that particular hurdle) - people do, and often there are several alternative solutions, culminating in an agreed good solution - or remaining distinct as opinions.

Problem:

Abuse directed to those who answer 'homework' questions. (To clarify: A homework question is often deemed one so simple it must have been asked by someone learning the ropes, either through an institution, or self-taught using free online problems to challenge themselves.)

I have no issue answering these questions, I found it useful when I taught myself to try to find good solutions to problems I either came up with, or found online with minimal support. But why has it become acceptable in any society, let alone a knowledge sharing society for an individual to impose their opinion on others using their accumulated power to have negative impact on someone else?

I appreciate many learning institutions interpret finding an answer online cheating - and within that learning institution they most likely have the resources available to provide the style of teaching that they want. However that's not the only way to learn, and not the only way to come up with simple questions, so how can we (as a community) take responsibility for the decisions of an individual who chooses to subvert an external system?

Additionally how can we ensure that those individuals who do not have the support of any recognized learning institute, can continue to learn and use the site in a positive, and meaningful manner, without being abused based purely on their experience?

(I appreciate that there are several key questions within this, but I felt they were sufficiently connected to be contained in one larger post.)

Explanation of how this post is different to others mentioned: Please read above, if you are still unsure, there are further details in the comments.

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    Related topics - meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/251758/…, meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/252506/…, meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/256003/…, meta.stackexchange.com/questions/10811/…. Those are quite long threads, but they will put you more closely into the context. Commented Sep 5, 2014 at 10:20
  • One question - do you see the goal of Stack Exchange (and by extension Stack Overflow), as a place to educate people? Or as a place for getting answers? Or as a repository of good quality Q&A?
    – Oded StaffMod
    Commented Sep 5, 2014 at 10:20
  • @EugenePodskal - So this is merely a recent development? Commented Sep 5, 2014 at 10:21
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    @Oded - Personally I feel it can be used to educate yourself, but shouldn't be a community responsibility to provide education. Equally getting answers is key, as is the ability to discuss those answers. As I mentioned in my post, I see it as primarily a knowledge sharing site, where people with knowledge are able (should they choose) to provided it to those without. Commented Sep 5, 2014 at 10:23
  • Well, I doubt that you have already read those posts, haven't you? And I am quite a new user, so am not the best one to answer, but as I understand some problems more or less existed from the beginning. Also, change the title, because it doesn't correlate with overall gist of the question. Commented Sep 5, 2014 at 10:23
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    "Abuse" is rarely based on experience - it's on asking a bad question. In my experience, if you care about asking a good question, you can do so even on topics where you have little to no experience. As for homework questions - what do you make of ones which are simply a copy and paste of an assignment, with no sign of any effort at all? Do you really think those should be answered?
    – Jon Skeet
    Commented Sep 5, 2014 at 10:23
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    I never saw a question being closed because it was homework. I saw questions being closed because OP couldn't express a specific problem, did no research at all, simply pasted an assignment, etc, etc, etc. Nothing on SO says you can't ask about homework, but any questions should be specific, on topic, and useful to a greater community, which these types of questions often are not. The same holds true for similar "simple" questions.
    – l4mpi
    Commented Sep 5, 2014 at 10:28
  • @Jon Skeet - I feel that there is still capacity for different answers to be given, and an interesting discussion to come from it. If you find a question interesting, and would be equally interested in how your perceived solution to it would compare to the solutions provided by other people, then you should be entitled to answer it. The question itself is a seperate consideration, if it is appropriate, interesting, and/or relevant, then kept, else flagged for the appropriate reason, and subsequently removed. Commented Sep 5, 2014 at 10:31
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    @GuyFlavell if you think SO is for "interesting discussion", then you're wrong. SO is intended as a high-quality knowledge base of factual answers, not as a discussion forum. If a question leads to discussion, chances are it should not have been asked in the first place. If the main focus of a question is a discussion, it should definitely not be asked on SO. It might be "interesting", but that does not correlate with usefulness.
    – l4mpi
    Commented Sep 5, 2014 at 10:36
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    Most "homework" questions are simple - and the site, being as mature as it is, already has answers to those questions. As a community, I think that ensuring there is ONE question and multiple answers rather than multiple questions (asking the same thing) all with one answer is a much better scenario. Downvotes on these type answers are generally empassioned users cranky that folks don't make the effort to search first. I often vote to close, but rarely downvote. Having said that, I don't disagree with their downvotes. Make the effort, then we will too.
    – Fluffeh
    Commented Sep 5, 2014 at 10:36
  • @l4mpi I find high quality solutions to problems interesting, it is one of the main reasons I got into programming. :) Discussion about why one solution is a higher quality than another is inevitable when people approach the problem from different angles. And tends to lead to a convergence of answers towards a better solution, or an acceptance that it is down to opinion. Commented Sep 5, 2014 at 10:43
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    @GuyFlavell: But the purpose of SO is not discussion. That may be a side-effect of some questions, but if the only obvious benefit of a question is discussion, then I'd argue it's unsuitable for Stack Overflow.
    – Jon Skeet
    Commented Sep 5, 2014 at 10:47
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    @GuyFlavell: If you're arguing that downvotes should be abolished entirely, that's a whole different argument - and one where I'm pretty sure your opinion will be in the minority. Your position seems to be continually shifting though - in particular, it seems a fair way away from your original question now, which is along the lines of "I think homework questions are fine".
    – Jon Skeet
    Commented Sep 5, 2014 at 13:25
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    Ah, so all the talk about downvoting (and closing of) questions has been irrelevant, and you're only interested in the downvoting of answers? It's been very confusing trying to follow your position, to be honest.
    – Jon Skeet
    Commented Sep 5, 2014 at 13:46
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    I fail to see why you can't just restrict yourself to answering non-homework questions. (And no, "simple" != "homework".) If you want to answer for the sake of learning about a topic yourself, you don't really need to post the answer in order to learn...
    – Jon Skeet
    Commented Sep 5, 2014 at 15:09

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The real answer is that the content and form of questions should be evaluated, not the perceived motive of the asker. It should be fine on this site to ask basic questions, whether they look like homework or not. Having said that, voting is at each individual's discretion, so those who feel "above" homework-looking questions can vote as they choose, even if it gives a negative view of the site.

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  • It does seem that is the case, however I am attempting to broach the topic of if people are abusing their capacity to down vote in an attempt to enforce their opinion on what people should and shouldn't respond to. Equally when comments hold no relevence to the question or answer, and are just complaints that an answer was posted, is this appropriate use of power. And who decides at what point this stops and any question on a language with publically available source becomes a "why not figure it out yourself" response... Commented Sep 5, 2014 at 15:44
  • There was a relevant meta thread not too long ago about a question that was possibly someone asking a question that could be perceived to be a "how to write malware" question - but someone else pointed out that we don't know what the intention was, they could just be a security researcher just getting started in the field. We do seem to have an "guilty until proven innocent" attitude here at the moment.
    – JonK
    Commented Sep 5, 2014 at 20:17
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    I don't believe it's right to help someone violate someone else's copyright; your answer, taken in that context, I don't agree with. Homework, which is what this answer was originally written in the context of, I mostly agree on; however when it is applied to a broader scope, I don't.
    – Daedalus
    Commented Sep 7, 2014 at 8:13
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In general, what makes Stack Overflow an essential site to me as a developer is my ability to get answers to the problems that fox me as a developer.

These could be:

  • The "gotcha" in some known API that doesn't do what you'd expect it to do. I remember back in my MFC programming days there were loads of them, and back then it was codeguru.com that would often provide a solution to the problem.

  • Within a relatively unfamiliar development environment, finding out if there is already a library function for something I would like to do so I don't need to reinvent wheels.

For "development environment" that doesn't just mean writing programming code, it can also mean related issues like using git or svn source control systems.

That I can often already find the question asked means I get the answer I need right away. When I don't, I can ask the question and will hope to get an answer relatively soon. If it's "does a library function exist to do .." the answer is often no, as I have found.

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