The plan - two-month implementation timeline
The biggest concern raised here was that splitting excel-vba would make it difficult to watch, as there's currently no support for watching/favoriting tag combinations. The DAG team has a plan to address this over the next couple of months (announcement on MetaSE); once they do, it will be possible to split these sorts of "tag combos" without undue disruption for current subscribers.
UNTIL THEN, I'm doing the following:
- Ensuring that all questions tagged excel-vba are also tagged excel and vba except in cases where this would push the number of tags over 5
- Adding a warning to the excel-vba and excel-vba-mac tags to encourage askers to add both excel and vba
- Adding a warning to the vba tag encouraging askers to specify an application tag as well.
After analyzing the current set of questions in these tags, I've come to believe that the critical blocker here are questions where multiple applications are involved: for example, Excel and Access. It simply won't be possible to correctly tag these until we can get rid of the combination tags entirely, so we'll have to bite the bullet on that as soon as possible.
The warnings are live now.
I'll be adding tags to just shy of 35 thousand questions today, and revisit the split once the system allows.
This particular debate has gone on a bit too long...
- Duplicates dichotomy: [excel-vba] vs [excel] + [vba]
- Tag editor extraordinaire
- User on tag-edit spree for 2+ days... [excel]+[vba]=[excel-vba]
- Synonymize / rename [excel-vba] and others to [excel-automation] / [excel-activex] / [excel-objects] / [excel-object-model]
- Merry Go Round Situation
- OK to fix Excel VBA tags programmatically instead of manually?
- more...
IMHO, there's no value to having a hyphenated tag here; two tags work just as well to represent the topic's scope while also allowing much more flexible filtering and combining with other tags. I'd like to just be rid of it, with a four-step process:
- add the excel tag to all existing excel-vba where it is currently missing
- merge excel-vba into vba
- synonymize excel-vba with vba (alternately: blacklist this tag with a warning to use separate language and application tags)
- add a pop-up warning for folks selecting the vba tag asking them to also specify a specific application tag when relevant.
This process could also be applied to other application-vba tags as well.
This is gonna mess with some folks' tag preferences; that's unavoidable. OTOH, if I'd done it a year ago it'd have messed with about 8K fewer people's preferences, so putting it off longer isn't fixing that situation.
Can anyone think of any good reasons not to do this and be done with the endless confusion and debates?
No debates about whether Excel is a programming tool, please; in the real world, people write applications in Excel - deal with it.
[macros]
tag into the mix as well. As per: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/256623/what-to-do-about-macrosunity3d-c#
,wpf-c#
,net-core-c#
tag? I don't think so. I do not have any domain knowledge ofvba
, but it sounds likevba
is the language, whileexcel
is the library/hosting application. I don't see any difference tounity3d
.using
.. This engenders the perception that a particular environment configuration is a new language, or at least different dialect of VBA. (Not what I think.)excel-vba
tag is gone. See Status of removing the Excel-vba (and similar -vba) tags for what happened.