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Someone decided to create a tag for calculating Jacobian matrices and determinants, basically a tag for a function, but if I'm reading Wikipedia correctly I could roll my own. Well, there are some libraries that allows you to calculate the said matrix if you just pass the values. Said libraries (in some cases like Mathematica, the language itself provides the function) already have tags on their own. Do we need to create the tags nonetheless?

This is a question specific about mathematic functions. There are already some tags about math functions, but I want to know where is the cutoff.

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    Can I suggest your question as duplicate of my question? ;)
    – honk
    Commented Jan 18, 2016 at 18:56
  • @honk no........ >:/
    – Braiam
    Commented Jan 18, 2016 at 19:03
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    I didn't do it. Was just kidding...
    – honk
    Commented Jan 18, 2016 at 19:40
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    Related discussion of the jacobian matrix tag and the user who created it: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/314976/… Commented Jan 18, 2016 at 19:45
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    Why not? cos we already have sin. Commented Jan 21, 2016 at 4:44
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    Does "When we are on Math.se." or "Never" constitute an answer to the question? Commented Jan 21, 2016 at 16:32
  • @JoshuaDrake Yes, though not necessarily a good one.
    – TylerH
    Commented Jan 21, 2016 at 16:34

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I was noticing this too, while looking into the jacobian-matrix tag earlier. It seems to me that the cut-off for these questions and tagging them as such falls into two categories.

  • If the question is asking about a specific piece of software or library that provides that function, then the question should be simply tagged with the library or software. Adding the other tags doesn't improve its target audience, nor does that tag make the question more on-topic.

  • If the question is looking to attempt an implementation of the mathematical operation in code without the use of libraries or other software, then I suppose that's more of a case-by-case thing that we'd need to suss out. Personally, I see these tags as meta tags.

    As an example, there are questions tagged with and , but they don't describe the actual problem on their own. Depending on the context, they may even be off-topic; I'd have to peruse them to see if they'd be worth asking on/migrating to Math.SE.

It won't be an easy answer for the latter, but the former is straightforward. If they're looking at R, Matlab or Mathematica and want to get a mathematical operation but they're having trouble with it, then tagging it with one of those three is enough.

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    Who would follow a jacobian-matrix tag? Are there jacobian-matrix experts trying to easily find jacobian-matrix questions? Commented Jan 19, 2016 at 18:53
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    @DavidConrad: If there are, I would expect them to dwell more on Math.SE than here.
    – Makoto
    Commented Jan 19, 2016 at 19:38
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    Nope, they aren't meta tags. They very much describe the algorithm being implemented, rather than programmer writing the algorithm.
    – Ben Voigt
    Commented Jan 20, 2016 at 20:39
  • @BenVoigt: I've yet to peruse the questions tagged either derivative or integral, but I will agree that those sorts of tags need to be taken on a case-by-case basis. I'm not interested in saying in blanket that this definitely isn't a meta tag since their usage has been just that.
    – Makoto
    Commented Jan 20, 2016 at 20:43
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Your lack of understanding of the right way to build a Jacobian matrix (hint: calling some magic function to do it is the worst option) shows why it actually is an area of expertise, which makes it ripe for tagging.

(I'm not a guru-level expert, but I do know that it is far better to do the derivative analytically, then plug in the coordinates, than numeric evaluation of the partial derivatives. And if you do use numerical evaluation, perhaps because no analytic form of the function is known, then there are a lot of accuracy concerns which can quickly lead to stability problems in use of the Jacobian -- the accuracy details may be common to floating-point, but the stability concerns, which will guide the tradeoffs you make in calculation, are more specific.)

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    Your lack of understanding that this is a general question for all mathematical functions shows why this is not your area of expertise. One of the most valued characteristics of any programming context is consistency. If we want consistency then either we establish the bases of this consistencies or we cry.
    – Braiam
    Commented Jan 20, 2016 at 20:45
  • @Braiam: You err in thinking that there is a general answer that can be given for all math stuff. And that "Jacobian matrix" is a function in the first place.
    – Ben Voigt
    Commented Jan 20, 2016 at 20:46
  • @Braiam: But your question asked when a tag is needed, and my answer does say that -- when it is an area of expertise. How a non-expert can recognize that is a prickly problem of course, it's common for non-experts to fail to recognize the difficulty of a given mathematical area to begin with.
    – Ben Voigt
    Commented Jan 20, 2016 at 20:48
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    I really don't care that jacobian matrix are a function or not, what I do care is that we are programmers in a site about programming first and foremost. Having a tag for, i. e. second order condition or Hessian matrices (both math concepts applied to economy), doesn't mean that I will go to SO to get help solving my economy problems. Nor I would follow those tags.
    – Braiam
    Commented Jan 20, 2016 at 20:51
  • @Braiam: Economics are merely one application area for optimization, which is where these ideas really live. And there are a TON of software/programming topics surrounding implementation of optimization algorithms, which are particular to optimization (but completely independent of the vertical market, i.e. economics).
    – Ben Voigt
    Commented Jan 20, 2016 at 20:56

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