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Aug 6 at 15:00 comment added David Hempy I was so confused, and guessing that "RB" was Ruby, that I googled, "RB language". The first few hits describe some language from 1988 named "RB". I bet Smith & McGuire are proud of their resurgant popularity: diva-portal.org/smash/…
Aug 2 at 7:05 comment added rene Interestingly: the Ruby language is also popular (ranked 17th in the 2023 survey and on the popular tag list, so it seems worthwhile to keep.) . Worthwhile to keep to be butchered later? Conspiracy theory, anyone?
Aug 1 at 23:19 comment added Adrian M. Thankfully, I have a hobbie.
Aug 1 at 20:37 comment added xdhmoore ARRRRR B do be the language of the prrrrrogramming pirates.
Aug 1 at 12:51 comment added Gimby @STerliakov I'm pretty sure this is more of a Stack Overflow meme at this point :) We're all making mountains out of molehills because we can.
Aug 1 at 12:01 comment added STerliakov @Gimby that's really weird compared to +16 on the bug report about broken charts and just -297 on license violation and last nail in SE coffin. Is this UX mistake really much more important than the interface not working and 45% as important as this platform yet again deciding to ignore its community?..
Aug 1 at 8:32 comment added Gimby 130 upvotes for this meta post. We really have specific priorities don't we :)
Jul 31 at 17:38 comment added David Conrad At long last Racoon Basic is getting the attention it deserves.
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Jul 31 at 2:24 comment added MDoubleDash I thought Red Bull sponsored the survey :(
Jul 30 at 22:47 comment added Cerbrus @Kelvin My comment was 95% jest. The comparison wasn't meant to "hold". It was a joke.
Jul 30 at 22:45 comment added francescalus Of course it's silly to shorten Ruby to RB. The correct space-saving way, as all the cool kids know, is 🦘🐝.
Jul 30 at 21:42 comment added Karl Knechtel @Kelvin as a Pythonista: we don't call it "py", but that's commonly used as a prefix for naming software written in Python. There's also the Python launcher for Windows which is quite literally py.exe (and a project by one of the core devs to make something similar for Linux as well).
Jul 30 at 21:22 comment added jsbueno Also, we don´t usually call "Python" just "py"
Jul 30 at 21:22 comment added Alex "RB on Rails" - what is even that.
Jul 30 at 20:34 comment added STerliakov @starball how do you see that addressed? Now, at the very least, they show results corresponding to the actual survey they performed. Yes, the survey did a terrible job with these categories, but it'd be even worse to shuffle the replies in results analysis. The only possible way would be to add another page showing "corrected" results/categories, but without any modifications to question-answer pages before. (They already have unusable "AI" section due to flawed methodology, let's try not to break the rest)
Jul 30 at 20:12 comment added VLAZ @ThomasWeller "Filtered" graphs are initially blank - you have to switch between the tabs in the chart. Then it shows up.
Jul 30 at 18:57 answer added Michael Kay timeline score: 44
Jul 30 at 18:44 comment added STerliakov Re PY: I was looking for it in one of the sections. I quickly looked through and found only MicroPython. I concluded that I'm blind, did ctrl+f, "python", oops, nothing more. I opened meta to search for already reported bug (yes, I was certain that python should be there). I found nothing (it was a few days ago, maybe it was reported since), started drafting a Meta post, and only found "PY" mid-process, after writing a first paragraph. So no, it's also a terrific idea, even if less terrific than s/Ruby/rb/ and "heavily used".
Jul 30 at 18:22 comment added starball I'm still... annoyed? disappointed? shocked? that they didn't address their severely overly-constrained categorization of a bunch of build tools as "embedded" stuff. and by how terrible the labels on a bunch of stuff in there are. it's like a bunch of money probably went into a UI redesign, but nobody checked that the visualizations of the data are all intelligible. I know people make mistakes, but c'mon.
Jul 30 at 17:18 comment added Kelvin Strongly agree with this post. Comparison with PY doesn't really hold (it's not about the percentage of letters omitted, but about the association in people's minds), because the Python community heavily uses the Py abbreviation in all kinds of contexts. As an experiment I Googled for py software and rb software. In the py case, python.org was the second match. For rb, the first ruby related match was on page 8 (it was rubyonrails.org).
Jul 30 at 16:35 comment added MT1 or maybe the survey was put together by a marketing tech bro who doesn't understand programming.
Jul 30 at 15:56 comment added khelwood What a just weird thing to do.
Jul 30 at 15:52 comment added user12002570 RB ❌ Ruby ✔️✔️ .
Jul 30 at 15:50 comment added Gimby Gah, why did you bring this to my attention, goodbye sleep. Why do tech people hate consistency so much? You write out "PowerShell" but then abbreviate Javascript to "JS" ? At least they got "Java" right instead of shouting "JAVA" like so many people do...
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Jul 30 at 15:44 comment added stevec @Cerbrus good observation; the point made above holds equally (perhaps more so) for other abbreviated languages, notably python. A graph's labels should be both obvious and unambiguous, which unfortunately wasn't the case in the 2024 report. It's a small thing but disproportionately distracting when it's the top or near-top comment on every discussion about the survey.
Jul 30 at 15:35 comment added Cerbrus Well, "Python" is labeled as "PY" there, while there are longer labels (I'm looking at you, "MicroPython"), so with a mere 50% of its letters missing, Ruby is being let off easy, imo.
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