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I wantI'm just trying to share another very strong reason why it's a very good ideacontribute in the first message of this thread, to try to add a mention that this is not "just" a community policy about being precise or not; the ban AI-generated answers:reasons should also stress more about being a needed moral and legal proactive measure, to avoid additional plagiarisms and copyright infringements.

 

I want to share another very strong reason why it's a very good idea to ban AI-generated answers:

I'm just trying to contribute in the first message of this thread, to try to add a mention that this is not "just" a community policy about being precise or not; the ban reasons should also stress more about being a needed moral and legal proactive measure, to avoid additional plagiarisms and copyright infringements.

 
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  1. SE policy lacks an "unless otherwise noted"
    • At the moment the copyright terms of SE does not mention the phrase "unless otherwise noted". That phrase is quite useful, since our planet has billions of contents under thousands of licenses, and very often answers are like "«bla bla bla» very long snippet citation1 citation2 citation3" and indeed this kind of answers are not content under CC BY-SA 4.0, but are instead contents released under the terms of the upstream copyright holder. Usually, official code snippets are pasted here on Stack Overflow as answer but just as mention, to quickly find that upstream documentation. So indeed, with or without AI-generated contents, a global "unless otherwise noted" would probably help in quoting external contents (ChatGPT included I guess...).
  2. Evaluate "fair use" policies
    • If you know what you are doing, small use of proprietary sources can be used even if they are "all rights reserved". But, you must clarify that the content is not yours, and you should clarify the reasons why you believe that the content can be shared in "fair use". Note that the Wikipedia community has interesting "fair use" policies. Instead the community of Wikimedia Commons does not generally include contents in fair use. But clarifying such policy in our website may be necessary, sooner or later, with ad without AI; and with and without AI contents that are assumed under "all rights reserved" as default.
  3. Evaluate big disclaimers about AI-generated contents
    • Basically stuff like https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:PD-algorithm that it's currently embedded in some multimedia files, to say that «This file is in the public domain because it is the work of a computer algorithm or artificial intelligence and does not contain sufficient human authorship to support a copyright claim. The The United Kingdom and Hong Kong provide a limited term of copyright protection for computer-generated works of 50 years from creation. 1 2 1 2».

So, I think the current ban is OK, and it's. Before even discussing a safe defaultre-activation, we should at least until we resolveafford the above points, to have aimprove the legal safe space (forfor editors but also readers) to start using the tool, at least,and use this kind of tools in a legal way.

  1. SE policy lacks an "unless otherwise noted"
    • At the moment the copyright terms of SE does not mention the phrase "unless otherwise noted". That phrase is quite useful, since our planet has billions of contents under thousands of licenses, and very often answers are like "«bla bla bla» very long snippet citation1 citation2 citation3" and indeed this kind of answers are not content under CC BY-SA 4.0, but are instead contents released under the terms of the upstream copyright holder. Usually, official code snippets are pasted here on Stack Overflow as answer but just as mention, to quickly find that upstream documentation. So indeed, with or without AI-generated contents, a global "unless otherwise noted" would probably help in quoting external contents (ChatGPT included I guess...).
  2. Evaluate "fair use" policies
  3. Evaluate big disclaimers about AI-generated contents
    • Basically stuff like https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:PD-algorithm that it's currently embedded in some multimedia files, to say that «This file is in the public domain because it is the work of a computer algorithm or artificial intelligence and does not contain sufficient human authorship to support a copyright claim. The United Kingdom and Hong Kong provide a limited term of copyright protection for computer-generated works of 50 years from creation. 1 2».

So, I think the current ban is OK, and it's a safe default, at least until we resolve the above points, to have a safe space (for editors but also readers) to start using the tool, at least, in a legal way.

  1. SE policy lacks an "unless otherwise noted"
    • At the moment the copyright terms of SE does not mention the phrase "unless otherwise noted". That phrase is quite useful, since our planet has billions of contents under thousands of licenses, and very often answers are like "«bla bla bla» very long snippet citation1 citation2 citation3" and indeed this kind of answers are not content under CC BY-SA 4.0, but are instead contents released under the terms of the upstream copyright holder. Usually, official code snippets are pasted here on Stack Overflow as answer but just as mention, to quickly find that upstream documentation. So indeed, with or without AI-generated contents, a global "unless otherwise noted" would probably help in quoting external contents (ChatGPT included I guess...).
  2. Evaluate "fair use" policies
    • If you know what you are doing, small use of proprietary sources can be used even if they are "all rights reserved". But, you must clarify that the content is not yours, and you should clarify the reasons why you believe that the content can be shared in "fair use". Note that the Wikipedia community has interesting "fair use" policies. Instead the community of Wikimedia Commons does not generally include contents in fair use. But clarifying such policy in our website may be necessary, sooner or later, with ad without AI; and with and without AI contents that are assumed under "all rights reserved" as default.
  3. Evaluate big disclaimers about AI-generated contents
    • Basically stuff like https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:PD-algorithm that it's currently embedded in some multimedia files, to say that «This file is in the public domain because it is the work of a computer algorithm or artificial intelligence and does not contain sufficient human authorship to support a copyright claim. The United Kingdom and Hong Kong provide a limited term of copyright protection for computer-generated works of 50 years from creation. 1 2».

So, I think the current ban is OK. Before even discussing a re-activation, we should at least afford the above points, to improve the legal safe space for editors but also readers, and use this kind of tools in a legal way.

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Popular large language models are like Pandora's pots, trained over millions and millions of obscure copyrighted materials, and this can surely cause extra potential copyright violations and plagiarism that can be tricky to be proactively identified, to assure long life to the Stack Exchange network, distant from boring extra lawsuits and extra mass "content takedown" requests.

Even taking copyright apart; popular LLMs do not mention the author, so they do not respect moral rights, and they do not fulfill our sane referencing standards.

https://meta.stackexchange.com/help/referencing

  1. SE policy lacks an "unless otherwise noted"
    • At the moment the copyright terms of SE does not mention the phrase "unless otherwise noted". That phrase is quite useful, since our planet has billions of contents under thousands of licenses, and very often answers are like "«bla bla bla» very long snippet citation1 citation2 citation3" and indeed this kind of answers are not content under CC BY-SA 4.0, but are instead contents released under the terms of the upstream copyright holder. Usually, official code snippets are pasted here on Stack Overflow as answer but just as mention, to quickly find that upstream documentation. So indeed, with or without AI-generated contents, a global "unless otherwise noted" would probably help in quoting external contents (ChatGPT included I guess...).
  2. Evaluate "fair use" policies
  3. Evaluate big disclaimers about AI-generated contents
    • Basically stuff like https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:PD-algorithm that it's currently embedded in some multimedia files, to say that «This file is in the public domain because it is the work of a computer algorithm or artificial intelligence and does not contain sufficient human authorship to support a copyright claim. The United Kingdom and Hong Kong provide a limited term of copyright protection for computer-generated works of 50 years from creation. 1 2».

Popular large language models are like Pandora's pots, trained over millions and millions of obscure copyrighted materials, and this can surely cause extra potential copyright violations that can be tricky to be proactively identified, to assure long life to the Stack Exchange network, distant from boring extra lawsuits and extra mass "content takedown" requests.

  1. SE policy lacks an "unless otherwise noted"
    • At the moment the copyright terms of SE does not mention the phrase "unless otherwise noted". That phrase is quite useful, since our planet has billions of contents under thousands of licenses, and very often answers are like "«bla bla bla» very long snippet citation1 citation2 citation3" and indeed this kind of answers are not content under CC BY-SA 4.0, but are instead contents released under the terms of the upstream copyright holder. Usually, official code snippets are pasted here on Stack Overflow as answer but just as mention, to quickly find that upstream documentation. So indeed, with or without AI-generated contents, a global "unless otherwise noted" would probably help in quoting external contents (ChatGPT included I guess...).
  2. Evaluate "fair use" policies
  3. Evaluate big disclaimers about AI-generated contents
    • Basically stuff like https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:PD-algorithm that it's currently embedded in some multimedia files, to say that «This file is in the public domain because it is the work of a computer algorithm or artificial intelligence and does not contain sufficient human authorship to support a copyright claim. The United Kingdom and Hong Kong provide a limited term of copyright protection for computer-generated works of 50 years from creation. 1 2».

Popular large language models are like Pandora's pots, trained over millions and millions of obscure copyrighted materials, and this can surely cause extra potential copyright violations and plagiarism that can be tricky to be proactively identified, to assure long life to the Stack Exchange network, distant from boring extra lawsuits and extra mass "content takedown" requests.

Even taking copyright apart; popular LLMs do not mention the author, so they do not respect moral rights, and they do not fulfill our sane referencing standards.

https://meta.stackexchange.com/help/referencing

  1. SE policy lacks an "unless otherwise noted"
    • At the moment the copyright terms of SE does not mention the phrase "unless otherwise noted". That phrase is quite useful, since our planet has billions of contents under thousands of licenses, and very often answers are like "«bla bla bla» very long snippet citation1 citation2 citation3" and indeed this kind of answers are not content under CC BY-SA 4.0, but are instead contents released under the terms of the upstream copyright holder. Usually, official code snippets are pasted here on Stack Overflow as answer but just as mention, to quickly find that upstream documentation. So indeed, with or without AI-generated contents, a global "unless otherwise noted" would probably help in quoting external contents (ChatGPT included I guess...).
  2. Evaluate "fair use" policies
  3. Evaluate big disclaimers about AI-generated contents
    • Basically stuff like https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:PD-algorithm that it's currently embedded in some multimedia files, to say that «This file is in the public domain because it is the work of a computer algorithm or artificial intelligence and does not contain sufficient human authorship to support a copyright claim. The United Kingdom and Hong Kong provide a limited term of copyright protection for computer-generated works of 50 years from creation. 1 2».
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