Timeline for Answer containing special characters to allegedly prevent AI from training on it
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Jun 21 at 14:15 | comment | added | Gimby | If it's abuse, should we then flag it as abuse? Or do we stick to the moderator action flag as advised in the answer? Even if it is abuse, it doesn't really strike as the malicious kind. | |
Jun 19 at 5:13 | comment | added | Ryan M Mod | @RealAnswersNotAI There is no such thing as "content...that's readable by most humans but not text scrapers". Most humans cannot practically read a screenshot of English text, as fewer than 20% of them know English. At best, they could copy it into a translation tool using OCR, which sounds very annoying, not to mention error-prone. Deliberately making one's answers harder to read (text cannot be reflowed), harder to use (can't copy/paste to try), and harder to search is abuse. Note that I said "despite requests not to"; I'm not talking about someone who's unaware that it's a problem. | |
Jun 19 at 4:53 | comment | added | RealAnswersNotAI | @RyanM so you're saying you would ban a user with otherwise helpful answers just because they regularly post content, like screenshots, that's readable by most humans but not text scrapers? | |
Jun 18 at 23:10 | comment | added | Ryan M Mod | @RealAnswersNotAI There's a difference between failure to do take an action that would improve readability, and actively trying to make your post less readable. Also, for particularly severe/persistent readability issues, yes, moderator action might be taken. Examples might include filling answers with excessively noisy formatting or excessive numbers of emoji, repeatedly posting untranscribed images of text such as code despite requests not to (note: this is not the same as failing to add alt text; you should add alt text, but it's not a rule), or otherwise truly unintelligible writing. | |
Jun 18 at 22:53 | comment | added | RealAnswersNotAI | It's a stretch to frame a readability issue in the same bucket as voting fraud and spam. That's not at all what "authentic" means in this context, and stretching the rules to ban someone like this might worsen the reputation of this site and its moderators. For example, you seem to be implying we take diamond moderator action over someone who repeatedly ignores requests to add alt tags to their images? | |
Jun 18 at 14:06 | comment | added | Lundin | "Inauthentic usage" clearly refers to things like voting frauds, sock puppet accounts etc. "Malicious" refers to things like destabilizing the network infrastructure. None which has anything to do with this issue what so ever. Also I fail to see how an original post by the original author could ever be a license violation. | |
Jun 16 at 10:43 | history | edited | bad_coder | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Jun 16 at 7:20 | comment | added | cocomac | @starball How's it look now? I've taken that suggestion. If it seems better, I'll update the MSE one too | |
Jun 16 at 7:19 | history | edited | cocomac | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Jun 16 at 7:10 | comment | added | Drew Reese | @fyrepenguin I've seen legitimate screen readers choke on legitimate text content, so that argument is tenuous at best. I'm not responsible for how your screen reader consumes content in the platform. Best to leave it at CoC and site rules violations. | |
Jun 16 at 7:09 | comment | added | starball | can't say I cant totally get behind this CoC application. calling obfuscating the word "the" "misleading content" is a bit overkill in my eyes. and in the sense that posting is not an unlockable privilege, I wouldn't immediately see it as "disruptive use of tooling". maybe your third point is actually the most likely to be applied if a mod comes looking at it. | |
Jun 16 at 5:58 | history | edited | InSync | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Jun 16 at 5:50 | history | edited | Jonathan Leffler | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
an end-user
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Jun 16 at 4:51 | comment | added | cocomac | @EatenbyaGrue Thanks - yep, the choice of quote there could have been better. I've updated it now - does that seem more clear? | |
Jun 16 at 4:51 | history | edited | cocomac | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Jun 16 at 4:42 | comment | added | Eaten by a Grue | The bullet points under "Misleading content" refer to misleading "others" and "viewers". My opinion is that AI Bots are not either of those things and that the text implies misleading human beings who are using the site. | |
Jun 16 at 3:53 | comment | added | fyrepenguin | As another user pointed out, it breaks one or more screen reader technologies, too | |
Jun 16 at 3:10 | history | answered | cocomac | CC BY-SA 4.0 |