Timeline for Where do we tell users not to use Pastebin?
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Mar 30 at 17:10 | history | edited | Pikamander2 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Mar 28 at 20:07 | comment | added | wjandrea | Related: Why should I not upload images of code/data/errors? This covers related points like "code (or errors/exceptions, logs, configuration, ..." and "URLs often become stale and unavailable, breaking future ability to read the post." | |
Mar 28 at 19:51 | history | edited | esqew | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Mar 28 at 16:03 | comment | added | Charles Duffy | Separate from compliance with policies that questions need to be self-contained -- pastebin.com in particular has a history for not vetting its advertisers carefully (it was full of animated, annoying banners for oft-shifty products and services back in the day when I had a different moral take on adblockers than I do now). They may well be better about this today than they were 15 years ago, but unless an ownership change accompanied this change, I wouldn't be surprised for ads to be occasionally malware-carrying (even with no active knowledge/collusion, just from lack of vetting). | |
Mar 28 at 15:30 | history | edited | MachavityMod | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Mar 28 at 12:49 | answer | added | PM 2Ring | timeline score: 31 | |
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Mar 28 at 10:49 | answer | added | cafce25 | timeline score: 13 | |
Mar 28 at 9:35 | comment | added | Mark Rotteveel | I'd say the second bullet point under "Help others reproduce the problem" on How do I ask a good question? covers it pretty well: "If it is possible to create a live example of the problem that you can link to (for example, on sqlfiddle.com or jsbin.com) then do so—but also copy the code into the question itself. Not everyone can access external sites, and the links may break over time. Use Stack Snippets to make a live demo of inline JavaScript/HTML/CSS." | |
Mar 28 at 9:22 | comment | added | user5349916 | I'm decently sure pastebin is allowed, just as linking to GitHub, or documentation, or the personal homepage of Santa Claus. It's just that this is extra information - the question is the question, and it has to work without people being able or willing to dig up that extra information. | |
Mar 28 at 9:09 | history | edited | cafce25 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Mar 28 at 1:07 | comment | added | user4581301 | But my point is this stuff needs to be called out early and unambiguously to the asker early and often. If they miss the information that'll make them useful members of the community, or at least keep them from getting banned, after you jam it right in their face, there's nothing you can do to help. But right now a lot of that information is buried in a decade-and-a-half of meta where I don't expect anyone to find it before they're told about it. | |
Mar 28 at 1:03 | comment | added | user4581301 |
Considering the number of times I've linked to [mre] only to have the asker respond by adding the complete program or code butchered to the point that it can't possibly compile in order to make it shorter, I'd say the odds of the link having been read are generally quite low even when you point the asker right at it.
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Mar 27 at 23:33 | comment | added | tgdavies | @user4581301 I imagine most don't even read "How to ask" (I wonder if stats exist on that?) | |
Mar 27 at 23:24 | comment | added | user4581301 | The problem is people are not looking on meta before they ask their first questions because they don't know meta is a the oral history of Stack Overflow and a trove of great wisdom. Hell, they probably won't even know meta exists until they're directed to meta when they get Q-banned, and that doesn't serve the asker any better than it does Stack Overflow and its community. | |
Mar 27 at 22:47 | comment | added | starball | related: meta.stackoverflow.com/q/339450/11107541, meta.stackoverflow.com/q/277891/11107541, meta.stackoverflow.com/q/274649/11107541 | |
Mar 27 at 22:26 | comment | added | zcoop98 | This FAQ is in the ballpark, though it's about linking a live, online project rather than Paste Bin; the guidance still feels pretty applicable, however: Something in my web site or project doesn't work. Can I just paste a link to it? | |
Mar 27 at 22:23 | comment | added | zcoop98 | The license doesn't need to match, post authors can license their own content under whatever license they want; but the going guidance dictates that questions need to be self-contained. It's less "don't use Paste Bin" and more "always include everything in the question", even if you do link to Paste Bin. | |
Mar 27 at 20:58 | history | edited | tgdavies | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Mar 27 at 20:52 | comment | added | Kevin B | We do, poorly. in the new editor: "Links to pastebin.com must be accompanied by code. Please indent all code by 4 spaces using the code toolbar button or the CTRL+K keyboard shortcut. For more editing help, click the [?] toolbar icon." Presumably if the question body already contained code they'd just not get this error. | |
Mar 27 at 20:52 | comment | added | Thom A | People shouldn't use Paste Bin because if Paste Bin isn't available in the future the question is useless. The content of the question should be in the question. | |
Mar 27 at 20:48 | history | asked | tgdavies | CC BY-SA 4.0 |