Timeline for Under what conditions is a non-mod allowed to vote to delete content for suspicion of violating the AI-generated-content policy?
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Nov 14, 2023 at 20:05 | comment | added | Slate StaffMod | @KevinB You're probably right as a matter of pure pragmatism. At some point, I suspect, folks are going to need to step back and ask the question, "What do we want out of the situation? Is it achievable (how do we know?), and can its success be measured?" -- but, I can't be the one to raise discussions of that type. The only thing I can do personally is to try and make time in my heavily impacted schedule to evaluate candidate heuristics. Such is life. | |
Nov 14, 2023 at 19:56 | comment | added | Kevin B | I don't mean to justify delete votes being cast, but, resolving the underlying issue would likely help people come around to agreeing with this stance. | |
Nov 14, 2023 at 19:56 | comment | added | Kevin B | I absolutely agree with your stance here (it's the same stance I've presented) but it's certainly problematic that so many of these flags remain unactioned as of today. The initial push for deletion of AI content by regular users was during the "strike" when moderators weren't handling AI flags at all. Unfortunately, due to (waves arms around wildly) AI related flags still aren't being handled at a rate that is making a significant dent in the backlog of ai content flags... so in effect the original reason people turned to casting delete votes hasn't been resolved. (cont...) | |
Nov 14, 2023 at 19:43 | comment | added | Slate StaffMod | But that way lies bitter anger, strife, and reopening old wounds - no matter how it goes. I don't want that to happen. So I am asking you, & folks here, not to do this, because I think it's the right decision. | |
Nov 14, 2023 at 19:43 | comment | added | Slate StaffMod | @starball I'm empathetic to the sense of urgent need for something to do about this situation. I get the desperation. At the same time, I really have to dissuade you from taking the vigilante's path. I think the risks are severe, and have already been shown to be quite serious. I understand that what you want from me is to lay down the law: expectation, policy, punishment; and I can't help but feel it's because you are considering taking that risk on personally. | |
Nov 13, 2023 at 7:52 | comment | added | starball | I'm serious when I say that it seems to me that it would be more effective right now for non-mods to coordinate delete votes, which is just a disappointing situation to be in. And to that end, you haven't answered my question of what expectations there are from the company for non-mods casting delete votes on AI-generated content, and what the repercussions/punishments are for not following those expectations. Could you please address those concerns of mine? | |
Nov 13, 2023 at 7:50 | comment | added | starball | Or to put differently, you say to leave it to folks with a bigger spoon, but as a member of the AI Heuristics working group, and a highly active flagger (roughly 20% of all pending AI flags are mine (over 1.2k out of over 5.1k)), it's clear that the mods' spoons are not big enough. See also meta.stackoverflow.com/q/427085/11107541. For this answer to be satisfying, their spoons would need to get bigger right away (heuristic approvals). | |
Nov 7, 2023 at 17:21 | comment | added | starball | the main thing that this leaves unsatisfying to me is that there are posts which match heuristics that aren't approved yet (still going through the thorough testing process- you probably know the one(s) I'm talking about) and that mods can't handle yet, and there's no clear estimate of when their testing is going to finish (or even start). don't get me wrong- I'm incredibly grateful to have you at the helm of the heuristic testing process. it continues to be a real blessing to have you, but to put it bluntly (and I think you'll agree), you're just one you, and it's taking a long time. | |
Nov 7, 2023 at 17:15 | comment | added | starball | "if [...] folks aren’t exceptionally good at this" - guess why I've been asking if I can see the results of my AI-detection mod survey submission :D | |
Nov 7, 2023 at 17:12 | history | edited | starball | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Nov 7, 2023 at 17:08 | vote | accept | starball | ||
Nov 7, 2023 at 15:25 | comment | added | Slate StaffMod | @DalijaPrasnikar Yeah, I'll concur with that. | |
Nov 7, 2023 at 15:24 | comment | added | Dalija Prasnikar Mod | You answer is focusing on the deleting posts that could be good content. However, plenty of AI posted content is bad and incorrect and subject matter experts can recognize it, even if it may look good (well written) to non experts. So I would rephrase your final recommendation, that people don't cast delete votes unless they have a very good reason to do that (beyond answer being suspected AI). | |
Nov 7, 2023 at 15:09 | history | answered | SlateStaffMod | CC BY-SA 4.0 |