Timeline for Will Stack Overflow disallow the GPT web crawler?
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May 6 at 23:43 | comment | added | user492203 | This didn't age well. | |
Aug 20, 2023 at 17:24 | comment | added | user16612111 | Open AI have a 150000$ lawsuit to answer to for violating the copyright act of the content it uses to train it's not. Stack Overflow should also follow suit. | |
Aug 11, 2023 at 16:40 | comment | added | Cornelius Roemer | Disallowing in robots.txt and potentially blocking the IP ranges hardly matters if OpenAI gets its hands on the data dumps. | |
Aug 11, 2023 at 16:34 | history | edited | Cornelius Roemer | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Replace ban/block with the more correct "disallow"
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Aug 11, 2023 at 7:06 | comment | added | NoDataDumpNoContribution | @J.Vergeer "It does not copy. It learns." Very good question about the difference of copying and learning. Although with the CC license an adaptation must still be under the same license. Learning itself must be something completely different. Maybe one could even invent a version of the CC license that only allows learning from it for humans? Some kind of discrimination. Anyway, these legal problems should be sorted out one way or another. | |
Aug 9, 2023 at 20:17 | comment | added | Bergi | @AndrewMorton More important quote from the WP article: "This relies on voluntary compliance". My comment was in response to OpenAI themselves "reportedly encouraging sites to block […]". I'm not sure where Quing Guo got these reports from, but the answer below shows that OpenAI actually know how to achieve this properly in accordance with the relevant web standards. | |
Aug 9, 2023 at 17:56 | comment | added | Andrew Morton | @Bergi Did you not read the second paragraph of the information you linked to? Not all robots comply with the standard; [...] may even start with the portions of the website where they have been told to stay out. | |
Aug 9, 2023 at 15:55 | comment | added | Azor Ahai -him- | @Lundin I don't think Qing is suggesting this because they're concerned about the quality of training data. | |
Aug 9, 2023 at 15:39 | comment | added | Kevin B | @CorneliusRoemer same difference | |
Aug 9, 2023 at 15:37 | comment | added | Cornelius Roemer | Ban is a strong word. I think what you mean is "politely ask it not to crawl" by disallowing in robots.txt... | |
Aug 9, 2023 at 15:29 | history | edited | Donald Duck |
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Aug 9, 2023 at 13:52 | comment | added | Bergi | "block the GPT web crawler's IP address" - really? Haven't they heard about robots.txt? | |
Aug 9, 2023 at 13:49 | comment | added | J. Vergeer | @Lundin Does the license block that though? Because if we see learning as a form of adaptation, then I have yet to see a software project that lists all the SO posts they ever used for knowledge. And that is basically what OpenAI does. It does not copy. It learns. | |
Aug 9, 2023 at 13:09 | history | became hot meta post | |||
Aug 9, 2023 at 12:58 | vote | accept | CommunityBot | ||
Aug 9, 2023 at 11:14 | history | edited | Peter Mortensen | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Active reading [<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ChatGPT> <https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/scrape#Verb> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenAI>].
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Aug 9, 2023 at 10:13 | answer | added | Andrew T. | timeline score: 74 | |
Aug 9, 2023 at 10:12 | comment | added | user16612111 | @Lundin, which would justify a ban on the web cralwer if there is evidence that it scrapes as it's responses do not attribute the source. | |
Aug 9, 2023 at 9:54 | comment | added | Lundin | Anyway, the content on SO is licensed in such a way that it cannot be reused without attribution given. If Open AI is doing that, then I believe they are violating the licensing terms. | |
Aug 9, 2023 at 9:53 | history | edited | Thom A | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Aug 9, 2023 at 9:52 | comment | added | Lundin | Isn't it Open AI themselves who should be concerned about getting their bot trained on content potentially generated by itself? If you don't want your dog to get ill because the neighbors feed it chocolate, then maybe not let it roam freely on the neighbors lawn? | |
Aug 9, 2023 at 9:43 | history | asked | user16612111 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |