Timeline for Are SE staff testing the AI formatting assistant on real questions?
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Jun 21, 2023 at 3:45 | answer | added | PhilippeStaffMod | timeline score: 106 | |
Jun 21, 2023 at 2:13 | history | edited | Dale K | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Jun 20, 2023 at 13:30 | history | edited | mkrieger1 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Jun 20, 2023 at 11:23 | comment | added | Lundin | We saw lots of such companies and managers around the IT crash year ~2002. They all went rapidly bankrupt. As usual the only thing we can learn from history is that humans never learn from history. | |
Jun 20, 2023 at 11:23 | comment | added | Lundin | Rather: half-decent manager skills suggest that when hiring someone fresh out of school/no relevant domain experience, you can't just toss them in at the deep end of the basin and walk away. Someone experienced in using the sites should be put in charge of them. Awful managers won't even do that, but fire the experienced staff and replace them with inexperienced ones, again without giving them time to learn, then tell them to spend 8 hours a day chasing some poorly-defined buzzword for poorly-defined purposes. | |
Jun 20, 2023 at 11:02 | comment | added | samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz |
It seems the editor does not yet have the informed badge. Maybe someone could tell them about the tour to get familiar with the site :P
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Jun 20, 2023 at 11:01 | comment | added | Thom A | Being a [staff] member doesn't mean you know how to use the tools. I'm sure that's something many of the users here are reminded of on a frequent basis (and I'm not talking specifically about Stack Overflow staff). | |
Jun 20, 2023 at 7:35 | comment | added | Lundin | The real question is why there was 6 edits to a "picture of code" question which should just have been closed. Lipstick on a pig. Or in this case, sloppy spray paint on a pig... | |
Jun 20, 2023 at 5:12 | comment | added | Ryan M Mod | @KarlKnechtel Some, but not all, staff have diamonds and have all the powers of a moderator. Generally the ones that do need it for reasons related to their job. The CMs all have diamonds, and I think most (all?) devs do as well. The ones that don't have diamonds have only the specific abilities listed in the post that pppery linked. | |
Jun 20, 2023 at 5:04 | comment | added | Karl Knechtel | @pppery from what I can tell, it's more like "staff automatically get a diamond next to their name, and a "mod" tag in contexts that would display it, and all the corresponding privileges, even though they don't necessarily show up on the listing of moderators". At least, this one doesn't appear on the list, but does get such a tag. | |
Jun 20, 2023 at 4:35 | comment | added | Karl Knechtel | It's also noteworthy to me how the current Ask Question Wizard is demonstrably worsening the quality of the questions under discussion. The "seam" where OP stopped answering "What are the details of your problem?" and started answering "What did you try and what were you expecting?" is obvious. Properly written answers may or may not include information addressing both those points (they're overly focused on "my existing code doesn't work" situations, which are not at all the only kind of on-topic question), but should incorporate them naturally instead. | |
Jun 20, 2023 at 2:05 | comment | added | pppery | FYI, since several people complained about the diamond, staff don't appear to need a diamond to edit without review | |
Jun 20, 2023 at 1:08 | comment | added | Andreas condemns Israel | Staff having no idea what they’re doing, and abusing their editing rights, seem like good reasons to consider signing the strike letter. | |
Jun 19, 2023 at 23:51 | comment | added | Laurel | @PeterMortensen "this edit", the first link. | |
Jun 19, 2023 at 23:29 | comment | added | Peter Mortensen | @Laurel: Which one? 76506511 (mentioned in comments)? | |
Jun 19, 2023 at 20:04 | comment | added | Laurel | The first revision smells of AI use to me too. No matter how many times I regenerate the suggestion for the post using the Ask Question AI, the opening line ends up starting with "I have", and it has been known to add "thanks" to posts (but I didn't see that with this post). Transcribing the image is not something that the AQ AI would be able to do, but there's lots of other software that could do it. | |
Jun 19, 2023 at 19:59 | history | edited | 41686d6564 |
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Jun 19, 2023 at 19:51 | history | edited | starball | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Jun 19, 2023 at 19:44 | answer | added | starball | timeline score: 78 | |
Jun 19, 2023 at 19:41 | history | edited | 41686d6564 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Jun 19, 2023 at 19:22 | comment | added | starball | @PeterMortensen I edited the question post to point to a more general MSE Q&A on noise. | |
Jun 19, 2023 at 19:20 | history | edited | starball | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Jun 19, 2023 at 18:35 | comment | added | Peter Mortensen | A canonical is Should 'Hi', 'thanks', taglines, and salutations be removed from posts? (MSE). | |
Jun 19, 2023 at 18:12 | comment | added | Thom A | Or more specifically, @ahiijny : Should we edit a question to transcribe code from an image to text? | |
Jun 19, 2023 at 18:03 | comment | added | Kevin B | @ahiijny meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/260245/… | |
Jun 19, 2023 at 18:00 | comment | added | ahiijny | Wait, why is it bad to transcribe the code? My first impression of this policy is that it seems counterintuitive, did I miss a discussion thread somewhere? | |
Jun 19, 2023 at 17:19 | comment | added | markalex | @Dharman, strike aside, is that what you can do to a staff member's account? | |
Jun 19, 2023 at 16:51 | comment | added | Dharman Mod | These are the edits that we would usually send a warning about and if it doesn't stop suspend the user. But since moderators are on strike this is unlikely to happen. | |
Jun 19, 2023 at 15:07 | comment | added | Kevin B | I mean... they could also just take the post source and test it in their dev environment. | |
Jun 19, 2023 at 14:04 | history | became hot meta post | |||
Jun 19, 2023 at 13:46 | comment | added | TylerH | @AndreasdetestsAIhype My point is that this staff user should probably not have a diamond. They probably don't actually need one to do their job, and it's clear they are misusing it here by making bad edits to questions that circumvent review queues. The edit Adriaan mentioned first also changed a non-opinion-based question into an opinion-based one... literally every aspect of that revision was bad. | |
Jun 19, 2023 at 13:42 | comment | added | Andreas condemns Israel | @TylerH How can they? Doesn’t the system automatically accept them, thereby preventing them from going to the review queue? It’s not the individual staff member’s fault that the system is this way. | |
Jun 19, 2023 at 13:41 | comment | added | 0Valt | Yes, it is bloat, @machine_1. Heaps of text have been written regarding the matter, so I'll just point towards the official Help Center page defining expected behavior on the network: "Do not use signature, taglines, greetings, thanks, or other chitchat.". | |
Jun 19, 2023 at 13:40 | comment | added | TylerH | This also looks like abuse of their staff diamond privilege. Their edits should go through the review queue like every other 1-rep user. | |
Jun 19, 2023 at 13:31 | comment | added | Dan Mašek | @machine_1 It is bloat, as it doesn't add any useful information to the question. What certainly doesn't make sense is for some third party to add such text to OP's post while editing it. | |
Jun 19, 2023 at 13:17 | comment | added | machine_1 | We do not allow "thanks"?...it's not a bloat or something terrible to say | |
Jun 19, 2023 at 13:13 | comment | added | Dan Mašek | The AI aspect aside, this is a perfect example of why edits made by people with little experience of how the site works should go through a review queue. | |
Jun 19, 2023 at 13:05 | history | edited | NathanOliver | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Jun 19, 2023 at 13:02 | comment | added | user5349916 | Why do you think these are AI posts? Especially the edit transcribing the image content doesn't look AI'ish. | |
Jun 19, 2023 at 13:00 | comment | added | Shadow Wizard | I don't think it has anything to do with AI. Over in MSE many staff members who are not CM's add "thanks" and signatures, out of sheer habit of posting online, or emails. They simply have no idea what the site rules or culture are, which is expected. Product manager doesn't have to know the product, just make it sell well. | |
Jun 19, 2023 at 12:58 | comment | added | Andreas condemns Israel | This is also a very questionable edit. | |
Jun 19, 2023 at 12:54 | history | asked | Adriaan | CC BY-SA 4.0 |