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Make an exemption to the suggested edit queue limit for edits made from review queues. I don't care about edits on some random posts, but the limit is a problem that impacts other review queues.

The problem I see with what you're suggesting is that the problem with the edit queue is the rate items move through it. What you're suggesting faces the same problem with suggestions to just increase the item capacity: It doesn't do anything to change the rate at which items move through the queue: It doesn't further incentivize edit reviewers to review edit suggestions, it doesn't change how many reviews each item requires, it doesn't change the expiry period of suggested edits, and it doesn't do anything to make it easier to review suggested edits. I really question how doing what you suggest will address that deeper problem.

I'd take a more general approach to the problem of full edit queues. See my proposal on MSE: For edit-suggestors with a streak of N approvals, only require one approval for their next suggested edit.

That would make edits by people who have shown they are recently, consistently good at making good edits go through the edit queue faster, which should have some knock-on effect of making the edit queue move faster in general, though that doesn't necessarily mean you'll have better chances at the queue not being full when you want to suggest an edit, since we're already so saturated in the influx.

There's another possibility worth exploring and discussing: Allowing reviewers in the 500-rep queues to review each others' edits, which apparently has some precedent based on how in the Low Quality Answers queue, users without deletion privileges can recommend deletion, and enough such reviews can actually result in deletion of the post.

Grant the privilege to do reviews in queues where editing is an option only after 2000 reputation, when the privilege to edit posts without review is granted, so that nothing prevents a proper review. Otherwise, reviewers below 2000 pts may just skip the edit option.

I'm really not a fan of this idea. My first reaction to it is concern and an assumption that it's only there as a strawman. A big part of the whole problem here is not enough reviewers (in the edit queue).

Taking more reviewers out of other queues is just creating another problem, no?

Do you realize that except for the Triage queue, all the other queues unlocked at 500 rep have an edit option? First Questions in particular is just always totally swamped.

(converting my comment to an answer for better visibility / to elaborate a little)

Make an exemption to the suggested edit queue limit for edits made from review queues. I don't care about edits on some random posts, but the limit is a problem that impacts other review queues.

The problem I see with what you're suggesting is that the problem with the edit queue is the rate items move through it. What you're suggesting faces the same problem with suggestions to just increase the item capacity: It doesn't do anything to change the rate at which items move through the queue: It doesn't further incentivize edit reviewers to review edit suggestions, it doesn't change how many reviews each item requires, it doesn't change the expiry period of suggested edits, and it doesn't do anything to make it easier to review suggested edits. I really question how doing what you suggest will address that deeper problem.

I'd take a more general approach to the problem of full edit queues. See my proposal on MSE: For edit-suggestors with a streak of N approvals, only require one approval for their next suggested edit.

That would make edits by people who have shown they are recently, consistently good at making good edits go through the edit queue faster, which should have some knock-on effect of making the edit queue move faster in general, though that doesn't necessarily mean you'll have better chances at the queue not being full when you want to suggest an edit, since we're already so saturated in the influx.

Grant the privilege to do reviews in queues where editing is an option only after 2000 reputation, when the privilege to edit posts without review is granted, so that nothing prevents a proper review. Otherwise, reviewers below 2000 pts may just skip the edit option.

I'm really not a fan of this idea. My first reaction to it is concern and an assumption that it's only there as a strawman. A big part of the whole problem here is not enough reviewers (in the edit queue).

Taking more reviewers out of other queues is just creating another problem, no?

Do you realize that except for the Triage queue, all the other queues unlocked at 500 rep have an edit option? First Questions in particular is just always totally swamped.

(converting my comment to an answer for better visibility / to elaborate a little)

Make an exemption to the suggested edit queue limit for edits made from review queues. I don't care about edits on some random posts, but the limit is a problem that impacts other review queues.

The problem I see with what you're suggesting is that the problem with the edit queue is the rate items move through it. What you're suggesting faces the same problem with suggestions to just increase the item capacity: It doesn't do anything to change the rate at which items move through the queue: It doesn't further incentivize edit reviewers to review edit suggestions, it doesn't change how many reviews each item requires, it doesn't change the expiry period of suggested edits, and it doesn't do anything to make it easier to review suggested edits. I really question how doing what you suggest will address that deeper problem.

I'd take a more general approach to the problem of full edit queues. See my proposal on MSE: For edit-suggestors with a streak of N approvals, only require one approval for their next suggested edit.

That would make edits by people who have shown they are recently, consistently good at making good edits go through the edit queue faster, which should have some knock-on effect of making the edit queue move faster in general, though that doesn't necessarily mean you'll have better chances at the queue not being full when you want to suggest an edit, since we're already so saturated in the influx.

There's another possibility worth exploring and discussing: Allowing reviewers in the 500-rep queues to review each others' edits, which apparently has some precedent based on how in the Low Quality Answers queue, users without deletion privileges can recommend deletion, and enough such reviews can actually result in deletion of the post.

Grant the privilege to do reviews in queues where editing is an option only after 2000 reputation, when the privilege to edit posts without review is granted, so that nothing prevents a proper review. Otherwise, reviewers below 2000 pts may just skip the edit option.

I'm really not a fan of this idea. My first reaction to it is concern and an assumption that it's only there as a strawman. A big part of the whole problem here is not enough reviewers (in the edit queue).

Taking more reviewers out of other queues is just creating another problem, no?

Do you realize that except for the Triage queue, all the other queues unlocked at 500 rep have an edit option? First Questions in particular is just always totally swamped.

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(converting my comment to an answer for better visibility / to elaborate a little)

Make an exemption to the suggested edit queue limit for edits made from review queues. I don't care about edits on some random posts, but the limit is a problem that impacts other review queues.

The problem I see with what you're suggesting is that the problem with the edit queue is the rate items move through it. What you're suggesting faces the same problem with suggestions to just increase the item capacity: It doesn't do anything to change the rate at which items move through the queue: It doesn't further incentivize edit reviewers to review edit suggestions, it doesn't change how many reviews each item requires, it doesn't change the expiry period of suggested edits, and it doesn't do anything to make it easier to review suggested edits. I really question how doing what you suggest will address that deeper problem.

I'd take a more general approach to the problem of full edit queues. See my proposal on MSE: For edit-suggestors with a streak of N approvals, only require one approval for their next suggested edit.

That would make edits by people who have shown they are recently, consistently good at making good edits go through the edit queue faster, which should have some knock-on effect of making the edit queue move faster in general, though that doesn't necessarily mean you'll have better chances at the queue not being full when you want to suggest an edit, since we're already so saturated in the influx.

Grant the privilege to do reviews in queues where editing is an option only after 2000 reputation, when the privilege to edit posts without review is granted, so that nothing prevents a proper review. Otherwise, reviewers below 2000 pts may just skip the edit option.

I'm really not a fan of this idea. My first reaction to it is concern and an assumption that it's only there as a strawman. A big part of the whole problem here is not enough reviewers (in the edit queue).

Taking more reviewers out of other queues is just creating another problem, no?

Do you realize that except for the Triage queue, all the other queues unlocked at 500 rep have an edit option? First Questions in particular is just always totally swamped.

(converting my comment to an answer for better visibility / to elaborate a little)

Make an exemption to the suggested edit queue limit for edits made from review queues. I don't care about edits on some random posts, but the limit is a problem that impacts other review queues.

I'd take a more general approach to the problem of full edit queues. See my proposal on MSE: For edit-suggestors with a streak of N approvals, only require one approval for their next suggested edit.

That would make edits by people who have shown they are recently, consistently good at making good edits go through the edit queue faster, which should have some knock-on effect of making the edit queue move faster in general, though that doesn't necessarily mean you'll have better chances at the queue not being full when you want to suggest an edit, since we're already so saturated in the influx.

Grant the privilege to do reviews in queues where editing is an option only after 2000 reputation, when the privilege to edit posts without review is granted, so that nothing prevents a proper review. Otherwise, reviewers below 2000 pts may just skip the edit option.

I'm really not a fan of this idea. My first reaction to it is concern and an assumption that it's only there as a strawman. A big part of the whole problem here is not enough reviewers (in the edit queue).

Taking more reviewers out of other queues is just creating another problem, no?

Do you realize that except for the Triage queue, all the other queues unlocked at 500 rep have an edit option? First Questions in particular is just always totally swamped.

(converting my comment to an answer for better visibility / to elaborate a little)

Make an exemption to the suggested edit queue limit for edits made from review queues. I don't care about edits on some random posts, but the limit is a problem that impacts other review queues.

The problem I see with what you're suggesting is that the problem with the edit queue is the rate items move through it. What you're suggesting faces the same problem with suggestions to just increase the item capacity: It doesn't do anything to change the rate at which items move through the queue: It doesn't further incentivize edit reviewers to review edit suggestions, it doesn't change how many reviews each item requires, it doesn't change the expiry period of suggested edits, and it doesn't do anything to make it easier to review suggested edits. I really question how doing what you suggest will address that deeper problem.

I'd take a more general approach to the problem of full edit queues. See my proposal on MSE: For edit-suggestors with a streak of N approvals, only require one approval for their next suggested edit.

That would make edits by people who have shown they are recently, consistently good at making good edits go through the edit queue faster, which should have some knock-on effect of making the edit queue move faster in general, though that doesn't necessarily mean you'll have better chances at the queue not being full when you want to suggest an edit, since we're already so saturated in the influx.

Grant the privilege to do reviews in queues where editing is an option only after 2000 reputation, when the privilege to edit posts without review is granted, so that nothing prevents a proper review. Otherwise, reviewers below 2000 pts may just skip the edit option.

I'm really not a fan of this idea. My first reaction to it is concern and an assumption that it's only there as a strawman. A big part of the whole problem here is not enough reviewers (in the edit queue).

Taking more reviewers out of other queues is just creating another problem, no?

Do you realize that except for the Triage queue, all the other queues unlocked at 500 rep have an edit option? First Questions in particular is just always totally swamped.

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(converting my comment to an answer for better visibility / to elaborate a little)

Make an exemption to the suggested edit queue limit for edits made from review queues. I don't care about edits on some random posts, but the limit is a problem that impacts other review queues.

I'd take a more general approach to the problem of full edit queues. See my proposal on MSE: For edit-suggestors with a streak of N approvals, only require one approval for their next suggested edit.

That would make edits by people who have shown they are recently, consistently good at making good edits go through the edit queue faster, which should have some knock-on effect of making the edit queue move faster in general, though that doesn't necessarily mean you'll have better chances at the queue not being full when you want to suggest an edit, since we're already so saturated in the influx.

Grant the privilege to do reviews in queues where editing is an option only after 2000 reputation, when the privilege to edit posts without review is granted, so that nothing prevents a proper review. Otherwise, reviewers below 2000 pts may just skip the edit option.

I'm really not a fan of this idea. My first reaction to it is concern and an assumption that it's only there as a strawman. A big part of the whole problem here is not enough reviewers (in the edit queue).

Taking more reviewers out of other queues is just creating another problem, no?

Do you realize that except for the Triage queue, all the other queues unlocked at 500 rep have an edit option? First Questions in particular is just always totally swamped.