Timeline for Allow <2000-rep users to bypass the queue limit when suggesting edits in review queues, or don't allow them to review in queues with an edit option
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May 3, 2023 at 13:37 | comment | added | Michael M. | @KarlKnechtel Probably even more related: Opining a successful-edit-count-based two tier suggested edit system | |
May 2, 2023 at 21:12 | comment | added | Karl Knechtel | "It would be more sensible to grant a free edit option after reaching some number of approved edits." Related on MSE: The Stack Exchange reputation system: What's working? What's not? | |
May 1, 2023 at 4:36 | history | edited | cottontail | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
minor readability
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Apr 30, 2023 at 8:53 | history | edited | Donald Duck |
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Apr 30, 2023 at 2:07 | comment | added | Mateen Ulhaq | It would make more sense to make reputation actually mean reputation. There should be caps on how much reputation a single source awards, so that reputation correlates with a sustained, long-term effort for the community; not mere occasional luck. However, I'm not sure the problem is considered sufficiently significant. | |
Apr 29, 2023 at 22:00 | answer | added | Michael M. | timeline score: 10 | |
Apr 29, 2023 at 10:39 | history | became hot meta post | |||
Apr 29, 2023 at 9:46 | answer | added | starball | timeline score: 7 | |
Apr 29, 2023 at 0:46 | comment | added | Ryan M Mod | I extensively edited the post to try to get all the responses to clarification requests into a shorter version of the post. I also cleaned up the comments a bunch, including fixing a typo in a comment ("approving" → "approved" in @SecurityHound's comment) and removing some responses that were based on that typo. If anyone thinks I removed anything important that isn't captured somehow, let me know. | |
Apr 29, 2023 at 0:39 | history | edited | Ryan MMod | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Condense responses to comments into inline prose so that I can clean up the comments.
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Apr 29, 2023 at 0:23 | history | edited | Ryan MMod | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Integrate one of the comment responses into the post itself to make it clearer and let me clean up the comments a bit. Also general polish and phrasing improvements.
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Apr 29, 2023 at 0:16 | history | edited | Ryan MMod | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Fix an editing error from rephrasing.
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Apr 29, 2023 at 0:01 | history | reopened |
cottontail starball Ryan MMod |
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S Apr 29, 2023 at 0:01 | history | edited | Ryan MMod | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Based on a conversation in the comments, this is the actual second suggestion, not what the previous title edit said. I believe the first suggestion was also incorrectly described.
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Apr 28, 2023 at 2:00 | history | edited | Ryan MMod | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
The actual feature request should not be a subheading of "answers to comments"; also it should probably be first
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Apr 28, 2023 at 1:57 | history | left closed in review |
Robert Longson Stephen RauchMod |
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Apr 28, 2023 at 1:10 | history | edited | starball | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Apr 28, 2023 at 1:07 | comment | added | DiMithras | @user thanks for the edit! Do you mean the second one on the list? It would make sense in regard that users would still be able to do edits, but will not have the hassle during reviews. From my own experience I had to reach 1000 pts on ruSO to fully understand if and how I should mark reviews / put flags / edits, being a newbie I was over engaged. That's my own experience anyway and ruSO is not that active, if the queues are overpopulated, they should not be limited to 2000 pts for sure. As for the feature-request link, I totally agree, that could lessen the load of edit queues. | |
Apr 28, 2023 at 0:53 | history | edited | starball | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
added 65 characters in body; edited title
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S Apr 27, 2023 at 22:51 | history | edited | DiMithras | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Updated the suggestion based on comments. Answers and abstract given to comments.
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Apr 27, 2023 at 14:14 | comment | added | Security Hound | @DiMithras - I had no problem earning the reputation from edit proposals. Here is a suggestion, don't polish contributions, that will be roomba'd. It's hard to earn reputation from edit proposals when you have only made 24 in over 2 years. | |
Apr 27, 2023 at 14:09 | comment | added | chivracq | [2/2] => We already need 1500 days (= 4 years!) (OK, could be shortened to 502 days if we make a "full time job" 24/7 from suggesting Edits) before getting those +1000 Rep from 500 suggested Edits. But in those 3 days, those mostly badly formatted/full of typos/grammar mistakes Questions by 1-Rep Users will often have gathered some Downvotes, and will end up being roomba'd 9/30 days later, ... and we re-lose those 2Pts Rep from our "approved Edit" again. Catch 22...! | |
Apr 27, 2023 at 14:09 | comment | added | chivracq | @SecurityHound, "Given you are able to earn 1,000 reputation from approved edit proposals, doing so make it very easy, to earn the required reputation", yeah, easy to say, knowing that we (<2k-Rep) first need 24h before finding a "free spot" in the "the Edit Queue is full, try again later", then another 48h before our Edit will eventually get approved. [1/2] | |
Apr 27, 2023 at 14:08 | comment | added | DiMithras | @SecurityHound yet getting points with edits is a hard way, especially given the limit. | |
Apr 27, 2023 at 14:06 | comment | added | Security Hound | @DiMithras - 500 edits is a very low bar to accomplish to earn 1,000 reputation which is half of the requirement. If a user can't get edit proposals to pass, then they are likely, not proposing edits that should be done in the first place. I review at least a hundred edit proposals a week, I see a lot of proposals, that are incomplete or actually introduce additional grammatical errors into the contribution. | |
Apr 27, 2023 at 13:59 | comment | added | DiMithras | @SecurityHound this will require 500 edits, as one approved edit grants 2 points, not to mention that some of them will not be approved. Points are earned mainly by answers and questions. And btw, one could have an ultra popular question not doing any edits, get 2000+ pts and become a trusted editor. That's another flaw, as trusted editor should be granted for approved edits, IMHO. | |
Apr 27, 2023 at 13:41 | comment | added | Security Hound | Given you are able to earn 1,000 reputation from approved edit proposals, doing so make it very easy, to earn the required reputation allowing to you to transition to ultimately becoming a trusted editor thus no longer requiring your edit proposals to be reviewed by other members of the community. The current reputation requirement is extremely generous, I would argue, it's to low if users are spamming "Looks Ok" instead of actually reviewing and selecting the correct review action. I see far to many people become review suspended, because they fail to properly, review a contribution. | |
Apr 27, 2023 at 13:08 | comment | added | DiMithras | @chivracq the only viable option that remains is Triage, that does not put a spoke in the wheel. The fun fact, I'm seeing users with 9x Steward medals who are <2000 pts, do they just put "Looks OK" on everything? | |
Apr 27, 2023 at 12:59 | comment | added | chivracq | Yep, that's the exact reason why I don't do Reviews, I was "happy" to contribute when I had reached 500-Rep, but I quickly gave up because of that "Edit workflow" for <2k-Rep Users... (Although Edits (to 'First Questions') might now be a little less needed, thanks to the 'Staging Ground', I would think...) | |
Apr 27, 2023 at 12:23 | history | closed | CommunityBot | Duplicate of Why doesn't SO block the edit option if the edit queue is already full and why can't we have a read access to the edit queue in review queue? | |
Apr 27, 2023 at 12:22 | comment | added | DiMithras | @SamuelLiew I guess so… It would make sense to give access to review queue the same time edits are unlocked, IMHO. Otherwise it forces to escape doing edits. | |
Apr 27, 2023 at 12:19 | comment | added | vandench | Why doesn't SO block the edit option if the edit queue is already full and why can't we have a read access to the edit queue in review queue? First Questions/First Answers/Late Answers reviewers should be partially or fully exempt from the suggested edit queue size | |
Apr 27, 2023 at 12:18 | comment | added | Samuel Liew Mod | Maybe the system is just not designed for <2k rep users to perform reviews that could require suggested edits...? | |
Apr 27, 2023 at 12:13 | history | asked | DiMithras | CC BY-SA 4.0 |