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Users with <2000less than 2000 reputation have access to four review queues: First questions / answers, Late answers, and Triage. All of them except Triage have an Edit option.

During review in these queues, many questions do seem fine ("Looks OK") and most of the review is just about clicking this option.

Yet, some questions / answers obviously need an edit, e.g. using code snippet on a non-web language instead of code block.

Without 2000 reputation, if you are not trying to farm review badges, and you actually review diligently with the goal of improving posts that need edits (rather than simply marking everything "Looks OK", or doing some other review action that doesn't improve the post, like downvoting/flagging and moving on), you may get stuck for hours in "The edit queue is full at the moment - try again in a few minutes!"

This totally breaks the review queue pace for <2000 ptssub-2000 reputation members and forces us to just click "Looks OK" or "Skip", which does not really add up to what review queue is meant for.


Suggestion / feature request

The following two proposals are mutually exclusive options:

  • Make an exemption to the suggested edit queue limit for edits made from review queues. I don't care about edits on some random posts, but the limit is a problem that impacts other review queues.
  • Grant the privilege to do reviews in queues where editing is an option only after 2000 reputation, when the privilege to edit posts without review is granted, so that nothing prevents a proper review. Otherwise, reviewers below 2000 ptsreputation may just skip the edit option.

Finally, in my humble opinion, being granted a free edit after reaching 2000 ptsreputation does not really make sense. Yes, 2000 ptsreputation might be considered as being mature on SOStack Overflow, but one can also get those with some popular questions, not really dedicating themselves to editing. It would be more sensible to grant a free edit option after reaching some number of approved edits.


I cannot call myself proud of my 22 edits, but the problem is, if I do reviews and do edits, there are times I don't submit them because of the edit queue being full. That's work that could improve the site being totally lost.

I've also heard it suggested that, due to the possibility of achieving up to 1,000 reputation from having edits approved, this won't be a problem for long. However, given the long time required for edits to be approved and the difficulty of even submitting them to the queue in the first place, this would take an extremely long time.

Users with <2000 reputation have access to four review queues: First questions / answers, Late answers, and Triage. All of them except Triage have an Edit option.

During review in these queues, many questions do seem fine ("Looks OK") and most of the review is just about clicking this option.

Yet, some questions / answers obviously need an edit, e.g. using code snippet on a non-web language instead of code block.

Without 2000 reputation, if you are not trying to farm review badges, and you actually review diligently with the goal of improving posts that need edits (rather than simply marking everything "Looks OK", or doing some other review action that doesn't improve the post, like downvoting/flagging and moving on), you may get stuck for hours in "The edit queue is full at the moment - try again in a few minutes!"

This totally breaks the review queue pace for <2000 pts members and forces us to just click "Looks OK" or "Skip", which does not really add up to what review queue is meant for.


Suggestion / feature request

The following two proposals are mutually exclusive options:

  • Make an exemption to the suggested edit queue limit for edits made from review queues. I don't care about edits on some random posts, but the limit is a problem that impacts other review queues.
  • Grant the privilege to do reviews in queues where editing is an option only after 2000 reputation, when the privilege to edit posts without review is granted, so that nothing prevents a proper review. Otherwise, reviewers below 2000 pts may just skip the edit option.

Finally, in my humble opinion, being granted a free edit after reaching 2000 pts does not really make sense. Yes, 2000 pts might be considered as being mature on SO, but one can also get those with some popular questions not really dedicating themselves to editing. It would be more sensible to grant a free edit option after reaching some number of approved edits.


I cannot call myself proud of my 22 edits, but the problem is, if I do reviews and do edits, there are times I don't submit them because of the edit queue being full. That's work that could improve the site being totally lost.

I've also heard it suggested that, due to the possibility of achieving up to 1,000 reputation from having edits approved, this won't be a problem for long. However, given the long time required for edits to be approved and the difficulty of even submitting them to the queue in the first place, this would take an extremely long time.

Users with less than 2000 reputation have access to four review queues: First questions / answers, Late answers, and Triage. All of them except Triage have an Edit option.

During review in these queues, many questions do seem fine ("Looks OK") and most of the review is just about clicking this option.

Yet, some questions / answers obviously need an edit, e.g. using code snippet on a non-web language instead of code block.

Without 2000 reputation, if you are not trying to farm review badges, and you actually review diligently with the goal of improving posts that need edits (rather than simply marking everything "Looks OK", or doing some other review action that doesn't improve the post, like downvoting/flagging and moving on), you may get stuck for hours in "The edit queue is full at the moment - try again in a few minutes!"

This totally breaks the review queue pace for sub-2000 reputation members and forces us to just click "Looks OK" or "Skip", which does not really add up to what review queue is meant for.


Suggestion / feature request

The following two proposals are mutually exclusive options:

  • Make an exemption to the suggested edit queue limit for edits made from review queues. I don't care about edits on some random posts, but the limit is a problem that impacts other review queues.
  • Grant the privilege to do reviews in queues where editing is an option only after 2000 reputation, when the privilege to edit posts without review is granted, so that nothing prevents a proper review. Otherwise, reviewers below 2000 reputation may just skip the edit option.

Finally, in my humble opinion, being granted a free edit after reaching 2000 reputation does not really make sense. Yes, 2000 reputation might be considered as being mature on Stack Overflow, but one can also get those with some popular questions, not really dedicating themselves to editing. It would be more sensible to grant a free edit option after reaching some number of approved edits.


I cannot call myself proud of my 22 edits, but the problem is, if I do reviews and do edits, there are times I don't submit them because of the edit queue being full. That's work that could improve the site being totally lost.

I've also heard it suggested that, due to the possibility of achieving up to 1,000 reputation from having edits approved, this won't be a problem for long. However, given the long time required for edits to be approved and the difficulty of even submitting them to the queue in the first place, this would take an extremely long time.

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IfWithout 2000 reputation, if you are not a medal farmertrying to farm review badges, and you actually review insteaddiligently with the goal of hittingimproving posts that need edits (rather than simply marking everything as "Looks OK", or doing some other review action that doesn't improve the post, like downvoting/flagging and moving on), you may get stuck for hours in "The edit queue is full at the moment - try again in a few minutes!"

 

Finally, in my humble opinion, being granted a free edit after reaching 2000 pts does not really make sense. Yes, 2000 pts might be considered as being mature on SO, but one can also get those with some popular questions not really dedicating themselves to editing. It would be more sensible to grant a free edit option after reaching some number of approved edits.

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@PeterMortensen

How can you get stuck if you have the privilege to freely edit and review edit?

 

Now the problem is, I do not have the privilege to freely edit yet. When there is a post that needs an edit, I dedicate myself to do the proper edits just to see that "edit queue is full" which means I can not submit it for review, hence waiting and clicking the button instead of resuming the review queue. Sometimes it may take an hour to submit.
I can live without editing some random posts before I reach 2000 pts, but when it's a review queue, that forces me to, feels like a trap that I should skip. ## Heading ## I know I may open another tab and continue the review queue. But here I encounter two problems:

  1. I may accidentally finish the queue, posponed will not be counted
  2. Edit queue may take ages depending on the time of the day. Sometimes it takes several minutes as the notice says, sometimes hours.

Conversely, if you don't have the privilege, how can you do medal farming? Please elaborate.

I'm talking about "Steward", it's just about finishing the daily queue. It can be finished by "Looks OK" and skipping quirky stuff. While it may sound fine, more work on edits could be done during review. And edits do take time, without them review queue does feel like farming. Skipping edit and using everything else including flags is one approach, one could also put "Looks OK" on posts that obviously need an edit, which ruins the review process.
I can notcannot call myself proud of my 22 edits, but the problem is, if I do reviews and do edits, there are times I don't submit them because of the edit queue being full. WorkThat's work that could improve the site being totally lost.

@SecurityHound

Given you are able to earn 1,000 reputation from approving edit proposals

The edit queue is not available below 2000 pts. Might be some easy points reviewing editsI've also heard it suggested that, but doingdue to the possibility of achieving up to 1,000 reputation from having edits does take someapproved, this won't be a problem for long. However, given the long time required for edits to be approved and given the fact that queue is almost always full, it's harddifficulty of even submitting them to submit an edit.

@SamuelLiew

Maybe the system is just not designed for <2k rep users to perform reviews that could require suggested edits...?

Guess it did, kinda, when the "edit queue" was not that populated. In current stancequeue in the first place, it'sthis would take an options that brings pain to review processextremely long time.

If you are not a medal farmer and actually review instead of hitting everything as "Looks OK", you may get stuck for hours in "The edit queue is full at the moment - try again in a few minutes!"

Finally, in my humble opinion, being granted a free edit after reaching 2000 pts does not really make sense. Yes, 2000 pts might be considered as being mature on SO, but one can also get those with some popular questions not really dedicating themselves to editing. It would be more sensible to grant a free edit option after reaching some number of approved edits.

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@PeterMortensen

How can you get stuck if you have the privilege to freely edit and review edit?

Now the problem is, I do not have the privilege to freely edit yet. When there is a post that needs an edit, I dedicate myself to do the proper edits just to see that "edit queue is full" which means I can not submit it for review, hence waiting and clicking the button instead of resuming the review queue. Sometimes it may take an hour to submit.
I can live without editing some random posts before I reach 2000 pts, but when it's a review queue, that forces me to, feels like a trap that I should skip. ## Heading ## I know I may open another tab and continue the review queue. But here I encounter two problems:

  1. I may accidentally finish the queue, posponed will not be counted
  2. Edit queue may take ages depending on the time of the day. Sometimes it takes several minutes as the notice says, sometimes hours.

Conversely, if you don't have the privilege, how can you do medal farming? Please elaborate.

I'm talking about "Steward", it's just about finishing the daily queue. It can be finished by "Looks OK" and skipping quirky stuff. While it may sound fine, more work on edits could be done during review. And edits do take time, without them review queue does feel like farming. Skipping edit and using everything else including flags is one approach, one could also put "Looks OK" on posts that obviously need an edit, which ruins the review process.
I can not call myself proud of my 22 edits, but the problem is, if I do reviews and do edits, there are times I don't submit them because of the edit queue being full. Work being totally lost.

@SecurityHound

Given you are able to earn 1,000 reputation from approving edit proposals

The edit queue is not available below 2000 pts. Might be some easy points reviewing edits, but doing edits does take some time and given the fact that queue is almost always full, it's hard to submit an edit.

@SamuelLiew

Maybe the system is just not designed for <2k rep users to perform reviews that could require suggested edits...?

Guess it did, kinda, when the "edit queue" was not that populated. In current stance, it's an options that brings pain to review process.

Without 2000 reputation, if you are not trying to farm review badges, and you actually review diligently with the goal of improving posts that need edits (rather than simply marking everything "Looks OK", or doing some other review action that doesn't improve the post, like downvoting/flagging and moving on), you may get stuck for hours in "The edit queue is full at the moment - try again in a few minutes!"

 

Finally, in my humble opinion, being granted a free edit after reaching 2000 pts does not really make sense. Yes, 2000 pts might be considered as being mature on SO, but one can also get those with some popular questions not really dedicating themselves to editing. It would be more sensible to grant a free edit option after reaching some number of approved edits.

 

I cannot call myself proud of my 22 edits, but the problem is, if I do reviews and do edits, there are times I don't submit them because of the edit queue being full. That's work that could improve the site being totally lost.

I've also heard it suggested that, due to the possibility of achieving up to 1,000 reputation from having edits approved, this won't be a problem for long. However, given the long time required for edits to be approved and the difficulty of even submitting them to the queue in the first place, this would take an extremely long time.

Integrate one of the comment responses into the post itself to make it clearer and let me clean up the comments a bit. Also general polish and phrasing improvements.
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Based on a conversation in the comments, this is the actual second suggestion, not what the previous title edit said. I believe the first suggestion was also incorrectly described.
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The actual feature request should not be a subheading of "answers to comments"; also it should probably be first
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