Timeline for Plagiarism flag and moderator tooling has launched to Stack Overflow!
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Apr 18, 2023 at 17:49 | history | edited | goryrilmoreStaff | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Apr 12, 2023 at 18:06 | history | edited | Ryan MMod |
Unfeature; it's been up three weeks now without much recent activity
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Apr 9, 2023 at 18:07 | comment | added | willeM_ Van Onsem | Something not alone related to plagiarism, but often occurs with it, is that people receive a site association bonus by plagiarising content. Then the content and reputation of the question is removed, but the association bonus remains for example. | |
Apr 6, 2023 at 15:44 | comment | added | Andrew T. | @java-addict301 Is attribution required for machine-generated text when posting on Stack Exchange? (it's moot on SO though since ChatGPT is temporarily banned) | |
Apr 6, 2023 at 15:05 | comment | added | Ryan M Mod | @java-addict301 We do consider ChatGPT to be a source. Your friend is also a source: if they write an answer, they should do so from their own account (accounts should belong to one person), though realistically we're unlikely to catch this unless you have notably different writing styles (ChatGPT's writing style is pretty distinctive). Note that in many cases, OpenAI also requires you to disclose the AI's involvement ("The role of AI in formulating the content is clearly disclosed in a way that no reader could possibly miss... "). | |
Apr 6, 2023 at 14:40 | comment | added | java-addict301 | @RyanM is ChatGPT a source however? Or is it like your friend writing an answer for you? and what if the answer is from common knowledge (for AI, common knowledge could be everything). | |
Apr 6, 2023 at 14:35 | comment | added | Ryan M Mod | @java-addict301 On the contrary, ChatGPT has made plagiarism easier than ever. We constantly see people post answers from it while failing to cite it as a source (and of course, it is unable to cite its sources). | |
Apr 6, 2023 at 14:29 | comment | added | java-addict301 | plagiarism will be a thing of the past now that ChatGPT is on the scene. Just my two cents. | |
Apr 6, 2023 at 1:51 | comment | added | Catija Staff | @Demis the internet archive will generally show the content. So if there's an entry in the archive prior to the SO post, it's older. | |
Apr 6, 2023 at 1:43 | comment | added | Demis | How can one clearly tell if the linked URL is newer or older than the answer? Seems like dates could easily be changed on sites that want to plagiarize FROM SE, accidentally making someone’s answer look like plagiarism. I’ve found it hard to tell whether a site copied SE or the SE answer plagiarized. | |
Mar 31, 2023 at 18:21 | comment | added | Birkensox | "Plagiarism" is the appropriate flag for misappropriated content, since this covers generative content. | |
Mar 31, 2023 at 15:18 | comment | added | VLAZ | @RohanBari if the poster clearly denotes the quoted parts and does their best to attribute it to the original author, then it's not plagiarism. However, just putting a link somewhere in the post isn't enough, because we all have the time to play detective, right? | |
Mar 31, 2023 at 15:09 | comment | added | Rohan Bari | Great to know that! One question. What if the answer poster cites the site where they have plagiarized the answer? | |
Mar 24, 2023 at 15:06 | comment | added | tdy | @SergeiKozelko Just to clarify, I believe the only open question is about better ways to handle non-copy-pasted duplicate answers, i.e., ones that don't add anything of substance compared to the previous answer(s). I would think copy-pasted duplicate answers are still flaggable as plagiarism. If not, they should probably mention that in the flagging modal because I'm pretty sure the average user will assume otherwise. | |
Mar 24, 2023 at 0:33 | answer | added | 41686d6564 | timeline score: 20 | |
Mar 23, 2023 at 13:11 | answer | added | Wai Ha Lee | timeline score: 28 | |
Mar 23, 2023 at 10:33 | comment | added | Sergei Kozelko | Are there any updates on flagging duplicate answers? From the comments on feature-request I understand that plagiarism flag is not for duplicate answers, but the only other option is a custom flag which still goes to the mods (plus I also leave a comment with text from here) | |
Mar 23, 2023 at 1:28 | answer | added | Ryan MMod | timeline score: 55 | |
Mar 22, 2023 at 20:38 | answer | added | Ben Voigt | timeline score: 12 | |
Mar 22, 2023 at 19:41 | comment | added | Laurel | If you're excited to try out this flag but don't know where to start, grab a sentence out of your favorite docs, put it in quotes in SO search, and see what comes up. (Whatever excitement I had about this has become the usual horror — more gets plagiarized than you realize.) | |
Mar 22, 2023 at 19:06 | comment | added | Catija Staff | @philipxy That's a question that's probably bigger than this specific discussion, so it might make sense as a new question. The current documentation does hedge as it says that mods may delete it rather than "will", but it often ends up being left to mod discretion. If it's helpful, these cases where disassociations happen to preserve high-scoring content are extremely rare. I've probably seen only 3-5 in the hundreds (thousands?) of cases of plagiarism mods have handled over the last few months. | |
Mar 22, 2023 at 17:22 | history | edited | CatijaStaff | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Mar 22, 2023 at 16:16 | history | edited | CatijaStaff | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Mar 22, 2023 at 13:36 | comment | added | Catija Staff | @Adriaan Disassociation means that the post is no longer connected to their account - as such, the next time the rep recalculation runs, it will not find that post to include in the calculation. That's not precisely the same as revoking the reputation because it means the reputation never happened at all... but... yes. | |
Mar 22, 2023 at 13:28 | comment | added | Adriaan | @Catija does disassociation automatically revoke the reputation gained, even when the post was +3 and >90 days old when it was deleted? | |
Mar 22, 2023 at 13:21 | comment | added | Catija Staff | @Adriaan While I can't expressly state that it's always the case, mods have generally reached out to the CMs to get high-scoring plagiarised posts disassociated from the poster, so I don't think that's necessary. | |
Mar 22, 2023 at 8:43 | comment | added | Cerbrus | @Adriaan I'd think so. Rep earned from plagiarism should be revoked, regardless of if the contributions are deleted before or after this new tooling. | |
Mar 22, 2023 at 7:59 | comment | added | Adriaan | "Automatic removal of reputation for old, high-scoring posts deleted as plagiarism (while deleted)" can I go back through my approved plagiarism flags over the past years and have the helpful ones adhere to this policy retroactively? I've flagged multiple 50+ scoring posts for plagiarism | |
Mar 22, 2023 at 2:23 | answer | added | tdy | timeline score: 8 | |
Mar 22, 2023 at 1:08 | answer | added | Spevacus | timeline score: 42 | |
Mar 22, 2023 at 0:56 | comment | added | philipxy | When entirely plagiarized posts are edited to entirely correctly quoted posts, what is the official policy on all-quote posts being allowed & where is it given? Right now there is still the vague & somewhat obscurely located & inconsistently applied notion that that is discouraged & a moderator might delete such a post & a flag for that might or might not succeed. And please add appropriate mention/references in site plagiarism messaging/documentation. | |
Mar 22, 2023 at 0:38 | comment | added | Catija Staff | @gparyani because most other sites have no need for a custom flag for this. Either flag volume is so low it's not creating any issues for handling or there's almost never anything flagged as plagiarism. Adding flag reasons makes flagging harder, so we want to limit the number as much as reasonable. | |
Mar 21, 2023 at 23:40 | comment | added | gparyani | @Catija Why was it decided to make it opt-in for other sites rather than opt-out? | |
Mar 21, 2023 at 23:22 | comment | added | Catija Staff | @Starshipisgoforlaunch it's a site setting, so we can release it whenever a site indicates they want it changed but we'd need a meta discussion that indicates it's needed. | |
Mar 21, 2023 at 23:15 | comment | added | Peter Mortensen | @j08691: Just look at late answers (to, say, popular questions). Any answer with complete English sentences is suspect. They are usually also quite verbose. Code dumps are also suspected to be the result of plagiarism, but it is very difficult to check. | |
Mar 21, 2023 at 23:07 | answer | added | gparyani | timeline score: 27 | |
Mar 21, 2023 at 23:06 | comment | added | Starship-On Discussions Strike | When will this be available for other sites? | |
Mar 21, 2023 at 22:51 | history | edited | 41686d6564 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Mar 21, 2023 at 21:24 | comment | added | VLAZ | @Laurel you cannot flag tag wikis, though. The flag is being added to things that were already flaggable. Just a new entry in the flag list. Not saying tag wiki plagiarism shouldn't be considered an issue, just that we don't have facilities to signal for any problem with those. | |
Mar 21, 2023 at 21:21 | comment | added | Laurel | New flag type - "Plagiarized content" - for questions, answers, and articles — Dang, tag wikis have been forgotten yet again. Still, I'm glad to see this roll out, and I'm wondering if there are any plans to get it on other sites. | |
Mar 21, 2023 at 21:20 | comment | added | Security Hound | @j08691 - I consider ChatGPT answers to be a form of plagiarism, so double my numbers, since report a ton of ChatGPT answers. But plagiarism is a huge problem. | |
Mar 21, 2023 at 21:12 | comment | added | j08691 | @SecurityHound I've noticed my ChatGPT answers than plagiarism | |
Mar 21, 2023 at 21:06 | comment | added | Security Hound | @j08691 - I see more plagiarized content then spam on a daily basis. A user will sometimes submit 10-15 answers and every single one of them will be plagiarized. | |
Mar 21, 2023 at 21:04 | comment | added | Catija Staff | @ThomA That's a point I should perhaps have clarified somewhat but, to be clear, when we retain information that has been plagiarised, the process involves editing the content to be clearly cited and sourced, linking to the original. The purpose of disassociation is to remove any benefits of the high-scoring content from the person who posted it on the site. :) That's where the "worth fixing" part of that paragraph comes in. | |
Mar 21, 2023 at 21:02 | comment | added | Thom A | Posting as a comment as I'm not in a position to vocalise in an answer properly, but disassociation for upvoted plagiarism feels "wrong"; plagiarism is plagiarism and it shouldn't be validated by the fact that it was well received. | |
Mar 21, 2023 at 20:48 | comment | added | ChrisF Mod | @Fastnlight I'd still use a custom flag for ChatGPT answers at this stage. | |
Mar 21, 2023 at 20:47 | comment | added | Catija Staff | @Fastnlight I'd leave that for the mods to answer, honestly. That's more of a site policy decision than I feel comfortable making. :) | |
Mar 21, 2023 at 20:45 | comment | added | j08691 | I guess I'm in the minority, as in all my years here I've rarely notice plagiarized questions or answers. Could probably count them on one hand. | |
Mar 21, 2023 at 20:44 | comment | added | Fastnlight | Quick question. If a post is suspected of being plagiarized from ChatGPT, can we flag for plagiarism and write ChatGPT in the source, or should we continue using mod flags? | |
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