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Feb 4, 2023 at 6:58 comment added Travis J Writing an answer which is directed at another user solely because the question is a blog post is ridiculous. Stack Overflow is not a forum. I get that you are staff, but at least understand the platform you are using.
Feb 3, 2023 at 23:51 comment added Makoto All of that to say, thank you for responding to my concerns, but I don't feel that it's fair to just stop there with "yes, we keep the lights on". A lot of things could keep the lights on, and I mean at least I tried to get value out of Stack Overflow Jobs in the past. The communities around technologies have already organically formed and can already share knowledge freely, and I have yet to really grasp what precisely the value add for Collectives is meant to bring. That might be the better thing to elaborate on?
Feb 3, 2023 at 23:51 comment added Cody Gray Mod I've yet to see anyone who finds value in Collectives. Do you have references for that? "Others let us know by their interactions and continued efforts." is really not a valid interpretation. It could just mean people keep trying and end up being disappointed (like me).
Feb 3, 2023 at 23:48 comment added Makoto You're probably right about "not valuable for you doesn't mean it's not valuable for someone else", but we could fit the someone elses into a WeWork space at this point. This is the cyclic frustration - yes, someone's going to find value in this, but it comes at a cost of tearing up a lot of ground that the company laid originally around Q&A, a systemic unease around interacting with this from long-term veterans of the site, and the pervasive "this is good for us" mentality that keeps cropping up here.
Feb 3, 2023 at 23:46 comment added Makoto On the point of joining a collective - my biggest concern is that my content would suddenly and magically appear under a collective, supposing that one day Spring decided to come to town and lo! my answers are now a part of the Spring Collective, even if I didn't want them to be. In practice I would imagine that it's highly impractical to ask consent from everyone who's posted an answer or question ever to see if they'd want to be in a collective, so it'd be opt-out rather than opt-in.
Feb 3, 2023 at 23:44 comment added Makoto I won't deny the use of "we" here since, y'know, that's how I normally speak. I don't intend to presume to speak for everyone; folks are free to form their own opinions or post their own opinions. But even still I do sense a pulse around the community about this that suggests that I'm not really alone in this perception.
Feb 3, 2023 at 23:43 comment added Makoto Is the privilege of keeping the lights on the only thing we're getting out of it, or the most obvious? I maintain that I had already deduced this with my original story. From my onlooker perspective, I could say that keeping the lights on could be accomplished with more aggressive ads or even more time spent with the Stack Overflow Jobs product. Neither of those needed to introduce a model of content creation that is so alien to Q&A that no one really knows how to moderate (with a lot of the heavy lifting done by diamond mods).
Feb 3, 2023 at 23:33 history answered BertholdStaffMod CC BY-SA 4.0