Timeline for A Stack Overflow user said using this site is like cheating - How so when it's my own question?
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Oct 27, 2022 at 16:09 | answer | added | ggorlen | timeline score: 3 | |
Oct 27, 2022 at 9:12 | comment | added | Gimby | FYI: You changed the word plagiarism in the title, but then left it in the question body. If you would do that in a suggested edit, that edit would likely be rejected for being really incomplete. | |
Oct 27, 2022 at 7:46 | comment | added | Andrew T. | @KarlKnechtel well, they have their own SE site... | |
Oct 27, 2022 at 7:02 | answer | added | philipxy | timeline score: 8 | |
Oct 27, 2022 at 3:05 | comment | added | Karl Knechtel | "as one example, asking for debugging assistance is allowed by Harvard's CS50 class." Maybe we could tell Harvard that Stack Overflow has very strict requirements for debugging assistance questions? | |
Oct 26, 2022 at 14:09 | comment | added | Jörg W Mittag | … literally paying people to help you study. Even if your country does not have student fees, you are still indirectly paying through your taxes. By not using those resources, you are essentially throwing away money. | |
Oct 26, 2022 at 14:08 | comment | added | Jörg W Mittag | The only thing the comment you quoted says is that 25 years ago, when the commenter earned their degree, at the university they earned their degree at, using SO would have been considered cheating. That's all the comment says. It doesn't say anything about other universities, it doesn't say anything about today, and it doesn't say anything about plagiarism. The most important part of that comment is the second sentence which tells you how you can get immediate, targeted, high-quality assistance without having to rely on SO. If you live in a country which has student fees, you are quite … | |
Oct 26, 2022 at 7:57 | answer | added | DharmanMod | timeline score: 8 | |
Oct 26, 2022 at 6:38 | comment | added | 41686d6564 | Screenshot of the deleted question for <10k users. | |
Oct 26, 2022 at 6:18 | answer | added | TheMaster | timeline score: 7 | |
Oct 26, 2022 at 4:22 | history | edited | cottontail | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Oct 26, 2022 at 4:04 | history | edited | Samuel LiewMod |
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Oct 26, 2022 at 4:01 | comment | added | Ryan M Mod | "I'd say taking snippets is just about the same as taking snippets out of the handbook and modifying them to fit a users program" Quoting from an actual academic honesty policy, the following is "Not reasonable": "Submitting (after possibly modifying) the work of another individual beyond the few lines allowed herein." - So it depends on your definition of "snippet", if that were the policy binding you. | |
Oct 26, 2022 at 3:57 | answer | added | Security Hound | timeline score: 13 | |
Oct 26, 2022 at 3:57 | comment | added | Kevin B | @CMOS_BATTERY we, have our own rules around plagiarism. ;) As a community with rules and guidelines we're allowed to have our own rules. | |
Oct 26, 2022 at 3:57 | comment | added | Ryan M Mod | @AndrewT. ...unless they post it elsewhere on Stack Overflow/Stack Exchange. Then we'll delete it for plagiarism. | |
Oct 26, 2022 at 3:57 | comment | added | Michael Szczesny | I encourage my students to use StackOverflow, teaching how to use it is part of the syllabus. | |
Oct 26, 2022 at 3:56 | comment | added | Andrew T. | Honestly, we would care less if anyone want to copy/plagiarize any code from here. While there may be a problem for them, that's not really our problem. | |
Oct 26, 2022 at 3:55 | comment | added | CMOS_BATTERY | @KevinB my point, How can a site that is based of an open-source coding language ever be interpreted as cheating or plagiarizing of another works? Unless I go through and copy everything down to their comments, I'd say taking snippets is just about the same as taking snippets out of the handbook and modifying them to fit a users program. | |
Oct 26, 2022 at 3:51 | comment | added | Ryan M Mod | As you note, different schools, professors, etc. have different policies on what constitutes "unapproved assistance." There is also a difference between reading reference material and obtaining specific assistance with your code. Security Hound noted that their school would not have allowed that. Yours may. A recent flag-handling rabbit hole (don't ask) confirmed that, as one example, asking for debugging assistance is allowed by Harvard's CS50 class. That said, I'm sure there are assignments, classes, etc. in which one is required to work alone. | |
Oct 26, 2022 at 3:50 | comment | added | Kevin B | What your professor thinks is plagiarism isn't that relevant to this site. | |
Oct 26, 2022 at 3:50 | comment | added | CMOS_BATTERY | But of course "unproved" can vary from professor to professor. Using the site to build my knowledge is like saying you cant read the manual. Almost everything everyone says here in terms of code was all created in an open-source platform. | |
Oct 26, 2022 at 3:47 | comment | added | Security Hound | @CMOS_BATTERY - You can cheat and NOT plagiarize someone. Using unapproved assistance to complete an assignment is cheating. Plagiarizing is copying text and not properly citing and quoting that source | |
Oct 26, 2022 at 3:47 | comment | added | Kevin B | I mean, you can certainly have that opinion, but at what point is a line of code someone else's, vs knowledge you've obtained? writing a for loop isn't plagiarism, and yet that's all over this site. | |
Oct 26, 2022 at 3:45 | history | edited | CMOS_BATTERY | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Oct 26, 2022 at 3:45 | comment | added | CMOS_BATTERY | Plagiarism is cheating. I'm sorry but they are hand-in-hand. Though I have edited the title to say cheating rather. | |
Oct 26, 2022 at 3:44 | comment | added | Security Hound | I said it was cheating I didn’t say it was plagiarism, there is a difference, you have taken my words out of their original context. My programming professors would consider asking how to one of my programming assignments to be cheating. | |
Oct 26, 2022 at 3:43 | comment | added | Kevin B | I mean... strictly speaking that is the definition, if you credit the work as your own. "the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own" but at a certain point that just becomes silly. | |
Oct 26, 2022 at 3:42 | history | edited | Ryan MMod | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Oct 26, 2022 at 3:37 | history | asked | CMOS_BATTERY | CC BY-SA 4.0 |