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Sep 19, 2022 at 17:59 comment added user4581301 Did a lot of the code for the boats on the boats. Did a lot more debugging of code, mind you. Sea trials are groovy.
Sep 19, 2022 at 17:34 comment added VLAZ @user4581301 on a boat. As in physically occupying the same X and Y coordinates as where a boat is located. Not for a boat.
Sep 19, 2022 at 17:30 history edited Henry EckerMod CC BY-SA 4.0
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Sep 19, 2022 at 17:12 comment added user4581301 programmers may also be working on a boat but so what? Did a lot of code for boats over the years.
Sep 19, 2022 at 15:39 answer added Karl Knechtel timeline score: 11
Sep 19, 2022 at 14:48 comment added VLAZ @user000001 you're not making any sense. Your point was that only coders use command line tools. I said the opposite with by users who "users that aren't primarily coders". Not being primarily a coder doesn't imply they are all coders. The same way saying "The animals in the zoo are mostly not dogs" - doesn't mean that they are all some variation of dogs. Some would be (e.g., dingoes), some would be partially dog (e.g., wolves), others will have no relation at all (e.g., giraffes). You can't make the claim that zoos are for dogs based on this sentence alone.
Sep 19, 2022 at 14:39 comment added Kevin B on a more serious note, if the need for this information was programming related (aka if you explained why you needed this information and what problem you were trying to solve by obtaining it) it likely would have stayed open... as then you'd be putting more focus on the programming problem you are solving, rather than the features/history of a tool.
Sep 19, 2022 at 14:38 comment added user000001 @VLAZ: Even you said in your comment: "... users that aren't primarily coders who can and would use command line tools ...". So you kind of validated my point.
Sep 19, 2022 at 14:36 comment added Kevin B Claiming the argument hasn't been won does not mean it hasn't been.
Sep 19, 2022 at 14:34 comment added VLAZ @user000001 2. Seems you're looking to dismiss an argument based on a logical fallacy. I don't have to give you accurate number of people I know that will validate the claim that command line tools are not only used for programming purpose. Failure to provide a satisfactory number does not mean that the opposite argument is true.
Sep 19, 2022 at 14:34 comment added VLAZ @user000001 1. You didn't verify what 42 refers to. When I said 42 I was referring to the number of non-coders. Because you asked me for a number related to, and I quote: " power users, system admins, support people". Which itself was in the context of "How many non-programmers (and non-coders in general)". I don't know how or why you decided that it refers to coders given the context. Nor do I see why it matters what figure I give you because:
Sep 19, 2022 at 14:23 comment added user000001 @VLAZ: So 42 vs 1 :)
Sep 19, 2022 at 14:21 comment added VLAZ @user000001 we don't classify users by what they have in their background. My mom has covered a bit of Fortran in university. That doesn't make her "a coder" as she hasn't really used that knowledge at all since. If she does or doesn't use a tool, her coding experience doesn't make what she asks about on-topic or not. The fact is that there are large groups of users that aren't primarily coders who can and would use command line tools for non-programming purposes. I've been using CLI since before I wrote I single line of code. ping doesn't change its topicality after I started coding.
Sep 19, 2022 at 14:16 comment added user000001 @LoneLearner: But you will have better luck getting answers to such questions on the sister site Unix and Linux
Sep 19, 2022 at 14:13 comment added user000001 @VLAZ: 42 coders and how many non-coders? Of course it matters, I know nobody, and I assert that almost no one uses linux command line tools with no coding experience whatsoever.
Sep 19, 2022 at 14:12 comment added VLAZ @user000001 OK, then 42. Why does a number matter here?
Sep 19, 2022 at 14:11 comment added user000001 @VLAZ That is not a number
Sep 19, 2022 at 14:10 comment added VLAZ @user000001 power users, system admins, support people.
Sep 19, 2022 at 13:59 comment added user000001 @Dharman: How many non-programmers (and non-coders in general) do you know who use command line utilities like tar? And how many coders do you know who use such command line utilities?
Sep 19, 2022 at 12:20 answer added Gimby timeline score: 7
Sep 19, 2022 at 11:39 comment added user5349916 Notwithstanding whether tar-the-program is a programming related problem, in how far is the list of tar archive suffixes a programming related problem?
Sep 19, 2022 at 11:32 comment added VLAZ "But tar is used by programmers while packaging software development artifacts." programmers may also be working on a boat but so what?
Sep 19, 2022 at 11:26 history edited Lone Learner CC BY-SA 4.0
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Sep 19, 2022 at 11:24 comment added Dharman Mod Tar isn't a tool primarily for programmers.
Sep 19, 2022 at 11:19 history asked Lone Learner CC BY-SA 4.0