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Aug 25, 2022 at 22:00 comment added Makoto @Trilarion: Open source communities and corporate-backed communities only differ in the sense that one can and often would pay, and the other group might not be able to pay. I feel like they're two sides of the same coin: it's a technology with a community of experts to it that have knowledge to contribute. I do want to be challenged on this, but I can't see how these communities are all that different, and I would anticipate that both could run into the same friction points with Collectives.
Aug 25, 2022 at 20:42 comment added NoDataDumpNoContribution Collectives was defended as a way to make money (keep the lights on). Not sure it is making a lot of money when concentrating on open source. Also not sure, what exactly collectives can do. Deeper knowledge exploration and collaboration sound cool, but not sure what they mean here.
Aug 25, 2022 at 17:52 comment added Makoto Who's to say that this won't flop when it comes to something that is proprietary and paid for because we weren't able to establish the core value add that a service like this provided that was superior to the disjointed (but still easily tied together with the help of ${searchEngine}) method of just searching for it on the web or on Stack Overflow proper?
Aug 25, 2022 at 17:45 comment added Makoto Maybe to put it more pointedly @KevinB, Stack Overflow as a resource is still valuable to myself and my team. Collectives, for better or for worse, have been chosen as the vehicle to generate revenue for this site. Having trouble making their new vehicle work for other cases is troubling, since the same pattern for "people who care about product X" also exists in the proprietary world, but likely to a lesser degree/reach.
Aug 25, 2022 at 17:44 comment added Kevin B You don't have to care about gamification, for it to have an impact on the users participating in those tags and any "positive" results that are being gleaned from it.
Aug 25, 2022 at 17:44 history edited Makoto CC BY-SA 4.0
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Aug 25, 2022 at 17:43 comment added Makoto I cared about gamification when I was a college junior just starting on Stack Overflow, @KevinB. Ten years later I'm in the industry and solving material problems at scale. I ain't got time to care about the euphoria of unicorn points anymore.
Aug 25, 2022 at 17:42 comment added Kevin B it further gamifies participating in those tags, creating a false sense of accomplishment that drives up participation in those tags.
Aug 25, 2022 at 17:41 history answered Makoto CC BY-SA 4.0