Timeline for Comment or edit to inform package deprecation?
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Aug 4, 2022 at 16:09 | comment | added | Braiam | @CodeCaster I think that's enough, will try later. | |
Aug 4, 2022 at 12:20 | comment | added | CodeCaster |
@Braiam sorry, I can't right now. Basically it's "Download the latest Ubuntu Server ISO, check the Docker box during setup, install compose afterwards, create a docker-compose.yml containing a bind mount and have it die on up (either as user or as root) with an error about a read-only filesystem". Maybe it's just not supported, I don't know, I haven't looked any further.
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Aug 4, 2022 at 12:17 | comment | added | Braiam | @CodeCaster from a cursory search, it seems that no one has reported that particular issue. Could you supply me with a reproducible sample so I can report this? | |
Aug 4, 2022 at 12:12 | comment | added | Braiam | @HereticMonkey "edit whatever you want" again with strawmans arguments. No, it does not say that. Lets me quote myself again quoting the help center: If you see something that needs improvement, click edit! That doesn't mean "edit whatever you want", that means "edit whatever you see that can be improved". | |
Aug 4, 2022 at 11:36 | comment | added | Heretic Monkey | @Braiam Your "holistic" argument basically says, "edit whatever you want". That doesn't work. Larnu and I have pointed out the holes in your holistic arguments and you've called them "strawmen". And again, I said that this case may differ, but what you are claiming is supported by the "documentation", isn't. On top of that, the answer seeks to denigrate anyone who disagrees with you. Is it surprising that we're going to disengage? | |
Aug 4, 2022 at 11:07 | comment | added | CodeCaster | @Braiam it's more like the Ubuntu installer offers to install Docker during setup, but that version has been broken for years apparently (at least when combined with Compose, running as root and using bind-mounts: stackoverflow.com/questions/52526219/…). | |
Aug 4, 2022 at 10:57 | comment | added | Braiam | @Larnu which still isn't holistic and has holes of the size of the ozone layer holes. Holistic arguments should be... holistic. In other words, it should consider every aspect of the site, not just this particular pet peeve of mine. Like, how your answer doesn't consider how that simply multiplies the number of answers exponentially since every user that has something to add to the answer would be required to regurgitate the same answer several times. Think critically what will be the end result of your argument, and how that serves the site overall goal. | |
Aug 4, 2022 at 10:54 | comment | added | Thom A | "try to make argument" @Braiam See my answer. I won't be engaging any more. | |
Aug 4, 2022 at 10:54 | comment | added | Braiam | @Larnu well, making a strawman argument doesn't work either, like my previous comment is pointing at, or my response to Monkey. So, try to make an holistic argument and maybe I would stop pointing out the weakness on the argument. | |
Aug 4, 2022 at 10:52 | comment | added | Thom A | @Braiam making a partial quote to try and make your point correct doesn't work. | |
Aug 4, 2022 at 10:52 | comment | added | Braiam | "Having an answer with all the answers makes it IMPOSSIBLE" we don't need an answer with all the answer @Larnu, we need an answer that works. Heck, we already have an answer with "3 answers" and it's not an wildly mess. Literally everything is contained in 3 sentences. | |
Aug 4, 2022 at 10:51 | comment | added | Thom A | I have never said that they can't be improved, @Braiam . | |
Aug 4, 2022 at 10:51 | comment | added | Braiam | @Larnu SO try very hard to move away from that forum behavior. Answers aren't written on stone, that once posted, they can't be improved upon. | |
Aug 4, 2022 at 10:50 | comment | added | Braiam | @CodeCaster wow, I didn't exactly expect something to break that way on Ubuntu, considering that they are derived from Debian. Could you point me towards that content so it can be improved? | |
Aug 4, 2022 at 10:50 | comment | added | Thom A | So has anyone posted a new answer, @CodeCaster ? Has anyone given that new answer a bounty? Has anyone left a comment under the existing answer to answer the OP that their solution may be a problem in Ubuntu 22.04 so that they themselves may want to address that? | |
Aug 4, 2022 at 10:47 | comment | added | Thom A | Having an answer with all the answers makes it IMPOSSIBLE to tell what part of the answer is useful and what isn't. Consider an answer that provides solutions for inserting data with SQL; each has been added by different users with little to no explanation. It provides 4 examples: the first uses raw injection, the second "sanitised" injection, the 3rd a parametrised query, and the 4th a stored procedure. If it's upvoted, which is the useful answer? You have no idea. If these were in separate answers, you could vote on them individually. | |
Aug 4, 2022 at 10:44 | comment | added | Thom A | As I stated stated on my answer, "If you see something that needs improvement, click edit!" doesn't mean mean "continuously add new answers to a single answer to make an uber answer". Improvement can be many things; formatting, language, fixing typographical error. If you rebuild a house you didn't improve the house, it's a new house; if you have a new answer, provide a new answer. Using a new/alternative package is a new answer, and so should be posted as a new answer. | |
Aug 4, 2022 at 10:41 | comment | added | CodeCaster | I'm aghast at all the other answers and comments here. "Leave answers promoting an outdated and not working alone, just post your own!". No, the workflow has changed and the answers aren't valid anymore, edit them to warn future visitors, puh-lease. How is the "outdated answers project" coming along? Exactly. | |
Aug 4, 2022 at 9:52 | comment | added | Braiam | @HereticMonkey that's a strawman argument. I'm not speaking about brace style, the question isn't asking about brace style, you will never see me arguing about brace style, since that's between me and my code. Can you put an actual argument about what we are discussing? Like "update the post as it ages"? Changing package names? Not bikeshed arguments about "code style". You took a generic argument like "edit whatever one wishes in a post", put an example that nobody is arguing about like "brace style" and then started disagreeing with me. Come on! Be more productive. | |
Aug 4, 2022 at 2:46 | comment | added | Heretic Monkey | "If you see something that needs improvement, click edit!" is not an excuse to edit whatever one wishes in a post. Someone may believe that the K&R brace style improves all code, but we discourage them from editing all code using braces to match that style. That part of the docs is also not saying that you should welcome any and all edits to your post. The purpose is to introduce the collaborative editing and wiki-like environment to users more accustomed to forums where posts are only editable by the post authors or mods. This case may differ, but that doc does not support the outcome. | |
Aug 4, 2022 at 1:53 | history | answered | Braiam | CC BY-SA 4.0 |