Timeline for Why are lots of meta questions about learning and improving poorly received?
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Mar 21, 2022 at 1:02 | history | edited | Peter Mortensen | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Active reading [<https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/receive#Verb>]. Brevity.
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Mar 20, 2022 at 18:18 | history | edited | clickbait | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Mar 20, 2022 at 11:43 | comment | added | E_net4 | Here is another recent counter example. | |
Mar 20, 2022 at 10:46 | history | edited | clickbait | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Mar 20, 2022 at 10:35 | comment | added | clickbait | @StephenC The difference isn’t clear to me; I don’t find any of my examples whiny. | |
Mar 20, 2022 at 10:15 | comment | added | Stephen C | "Is it actually frowned-upon to ask for feedback on poorly-received questions?" - No, but it is frowned-upon to whine. And the difference is usually clear. See Cody's list of counter-examples ... | |
Mar 20, 2022 at 9:06 | history | edited | clickbait | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Mar 20, 2022 at 9:01 | comment | added | Cody Gray Mod | Counter-examples (asking here on Meta for advice on how to improve a question on the main site, but not heavily downvoted): meta.stackoverflow.com/q/391162, meta.stackoverflow.com/q/392022, meta.stackoverflow.com/q/405042, meta.stackoverflow.com/q/354784, meta.stackoverflow.com/q/260713, meta.stackoverflow.com/q/341183 ... and those are just the ones I could find easily (pulled from my own profile page, since I answered them). I know there are dozens more that were positively-received here on Meta. So there must be a difference in tone. | |
Mar 20, 2022 at 8:59 | answer | added | rene | timeline score: 17 | |
Mar 20, 2022 at 8:54 | history | edited | clickbait | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Mar 20, 2022 at 8:45 | comment | added | Cody Gray Mod | You and I apparently have a very different understanding of the term "genuine inquiries". Looking at the last question you cited as an example, the user there pretty much just says they are confident their questions are clear, so they don't see any basis for downvoting. That kind of arrogance doesn't play well on Meta. People don't downvote arbitrarily and for no reason. And aside from the intentions of individual users, we get a lot of complaints on Meta about downvotes (an average of 2-3 per day), so it just gets old. Uninteresting and/or not-useful questions get downvoted. | |
Mar 20, 2022 at 8:14 | comment | added | rene | Why do meta questions get downvoted? Because they are not deemed useful by some users. That isn't any different across all sites in the network, in case you didn't know. | |
Mar 20, 2022 at 8:12 | comment | added | Tom | I've seen several (most?) of such improvement questions getting downvotes for either of these three reasons: the question wouldn't exist if OP had bothered to read the help page for on-topic questions; OP pretended that there is no feedback why their question was either downvoted or closed, although it is obviously not true; OP requests comments/reasons for downvotes and that's usually a delicate matter. One additional minor reason could be that OP asked for improvements because they received one down or close vote, some user see that as overhasty and not really needed. | |
Mar 20, 2022 at 7:58 | history | edited | clickbait | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Mar 20, 2022 at 7:57 | comment | added | VLAZ | Several of these relate to questions that are hopelessly incompatible with SO. It's not a matter of "improvement", it seems the OPs don't even know what the goal of SO is. Others may know but still haven't done the basics like reading and acting on the close message. If we're here to learn, as you say, then you picked several examples where there is little evidence of that. | |
Mar 20, 2022 at 7:56 | comment | added | clickbait | @CodyGray What I see are genuine inquiries for (1) understanding the reasons that some questions were poorly received by the community and (2) learning to improve these questions (and to ask better questions down the road). I don’t think they’re complaints at all. | |
Mar 20, 2022 at 7:50 | comment | added | Cody Gray Mod | Complaints about downvotes get downvoted. So do complaints that no reason accompanied a downvote. | |
Mar 20, 2022 at 7:40 | history | asked | clickbait | CC BY-SA 4.0 |