Timeline for Should I explain other people's code-only answers?
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Oct 15, 2022 at 16:02 | vote | accept | Faraaz Kurawle | ||
Oct 4, 2022 at 13:23 | comment | added | canon | I suspect that some people would reflexively downvote an answer whose code is wholly copied from within the same question context.... regardless of licensing, attribution, or explanation. | |
Sep 19, 2022 at 2:14 | comment | added | toxicantidote | As someone who usually comes to SO with more questions than answers, browsing many functionally identical answers is a frustrating step in the pursuit to find an answer that works for me. It reminds me of when you Google "how to fix x issue on device y" and get those websites that have a hundred copies of the same issue page with only the name of the device changed, but the 'fix' only actually works on one or two devices, if at all. | |
Feb 23, 2022 at 14:02 | comment | added | NoDataDumpNoContribution | @GaiusJard You're right and I also mentioned this on this page. But then, the reward is completely the satisfaction of a job well done, a shining answer for example. The reward is not the unicorn points (at least I hope it isn't). | |
Feb 23, 2022 at 13:34 | comment | added | Caius Jard | Stack Overflow is a collaborative effort - but not a collaborative reward.. There is nearly no recognition for those poor souls who toil to make the advice better, wiki style and they're much more educative heroes than the FGITW who sling a code-only answer in quick quick to bag the unicorn points.. | |
Feb 23, 2022 at 10:50 | comment | added | NoDataDumpNoContribution | Answer cannibalization could be prevent if we had a merge process for very similar answers. But we haven't. | |
Feb 23, 2022 at 10:29 | comment | added | Gimby | @Braiam nice read. I like that, "answer cannibalisation". We should use that term more often. | |
Feb 22, 2022 at 11:38 | comment | added | Braiam | @philipxy "This is an unsubstantiated exaggeration" it is not, it happened and still happens when something is popular. | |
Feb 22, 2022 at 10:41 | comment | added | NoDataDumpNoContribution | @PeterCordes "One bit reason SO doesn't suck is that others can tweak and maintain highly-voted answers on existing questions..." Not sure many people see the editing feature as so important. If you asked around I guess that most people see voting on different answers as the key element. And that requires answers, not necessarily edits to them. It's interesting to see that Wikipedia is for example going the complete other way with only one version of each article. It's all about different ways to collaborate. There seem to be many different collaboration modes possibly that kind of work. | |
Feb 22, 2022 at 10:37 | comment | added | NoDataDumpNoContribution | @philipxy Explosion was indeed too strong. Nobody knows what would happen, would we consequently open up new answers whenever we see something that needs improvement and might change the intent. Changed to "increase" which is a more neutral description of what would likely happen. | |
Feb 22, 2022 at 10:34 | history | edited | NoDataDumpNoContribution | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Feb 22, 2022 at 10:15 | comment | added | philipxy | "as well as an explosion of the number of very similar answers" This is an unsubstantiated exaggeration, the site is premised on individuals giving their own take on answering. | |
Feb 22, 2022 at 10:10 | comment | added | Peter Cordes | Looks good to me now; upvoted as the best explanation for why philipxy's answer is not good, and the voting on this meta question baffles me. I expected some support for the "never touch other people's answers" position, but that much support for such an extreme position seems crazy to me. One bit reason SO doesn't suck is that others can tweak and maintain highly-voted answers on existing questions, especially if the OP isn't doing it. It's not much of a stretch to assume their intent doesn't include being wrong or unhelpful. | |
Feb 22, 2022 at 9:22 | history | edited | NoDataDumpNoContribution | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Feb 22, 2022 at 9:20 | comment | added | NoDataDumpNoContribution | @PeterCordes Thanks for the comments. I think you're right and tried to reformulate the central part. If that is not sufficient for you, you can submit an edit because I'm basically through with it and do not know how to better word it. | |
Feb 22, 2022 at 9:16 | history | edited | NoDataDumpNoContribution | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Feb 21, 2022 at 20:32 | comment | added | Peter Cordes | @Trilarion: Yes, an explosion of answers, and duplication / fragmentation, is the actual problem with the "post your own answer" suggestion. Copying the code into an answer with explanation is not great, only somewhat less bad; I'm not advocating it, just pointing out that the reasoning in your question seems like a straw-man argument because there's no need to create that problem. Your points in your first comment are the actual reasons that should be in your answer. TL:DR: I like your conclusion that edits are good, but other parts of this answer were lacking. | |
Feb 21, 2022 at 20:20 | comment | added | NoDataDumpNoContribution | @Gimby Yes, the scenario is that someone provides good but unpolished content. Adding documentation by a domain expert I would still regard as polishing. Some contributors know their trade but are too lazy to really make their contributions perfect. | |
Feb 21, 2022 at 17:20 | comment | added | Gimby | ... yeah, I have to go with this answer. In the interest of reducing duplication and fragmentation, just fix the damned answer. The implication here is that the code is actually good after all, otherwise why are we fixing up junk? | |
Feb 21, 2022 at 13:44 | history | edited | Braiam | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Feb 21, 2022 at 12:48 | comment | added | NoDataDumpNoContribution | @PeterCordes For fun, let me just try to take the idea to the extreme :): We could regard answers as extremely lightweight and spawn lots of similar answers (once again with more explanation, ...) and then show people all these answers and they have to read them all and then cluster them and compare within a cluster. Then we could pick the top of each cluster, discard the rest and again spawn new similar ones. Kind of like evolutionary optimization algorithms do. Main problem might be the explosion of number of answers. | |
Feb 21, 2022 at 12:48 | history | edited | NoDataDumpNoContribution | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Feb 21, 2022 at 9:15 | comment | added | Peter Cordes | SO answers are CC-BY-SA; you can copy (with attribution) the code into your answer to go with the explanation. I agree that editing an explanation into answer is a good thing, especially on questions with lots of existing answers already (where a new one won't get much attention), especially when the answer in need of explanation is the highest voted. But your suggested reason of distance between answer and explanation isn't a show-stopper at all; the actual problem is vote totals for a fresh answer and being buried. | |
Feb 21, 2022 at 9:15 | history | edited | Tim | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Feb 21, 2022 at 8:49 | history | answered | NoDataDumpNoContribution | CC BY-SA 4.0 |