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Edit: Reading the comments it's clear that some folks see this as a high-rep user whining. I don't really care about getting the suspension lifted. It's just for two days.

But maybe that second post shouldn't be used for review audits moving forward.

And I do think the discussion around poor quality review audits is important. Should "leave feedback" lead to a failed audit on a "good" post? Should there be a way to report bad audits? Should the failure ratio count instead of just the failure count?

Maybe I need to turn these into discussion / feature requests posts on m.se.


I have just been suspended from reviewing based on what I believe to be poor review audits:

Screenshot of "you've been suspended" message

On the first one

This is clearly a bad answer and I don't remember exactly how I failed that audit. It was a while ago, and the only information I can see now is that I "reviewed" it.

I believe I downvoted the post, upvoted the comment that highlights part of the problem, forgot to flag, and then used the "performed another action" option. Since votes aren't actually kept on audit questions I can't look for orange buttons to be sure.

In and of itself, it's frustrating that this leads to a failed audit. Yes, a VLQ flag would have been warranted but the actions I took both signaled in the right direction.

Is forgetting to flag really worth failing an audit over? Maybe.

On the second one

I used the "share feedback" option, intending to use the canned comment that asks for supporting information.

The entire text of that answer is:

For those who do have this problem using Visual Studio 2022: switch back to 2019 as it doesn't work yet in the new version.

I don't think this is a very good answer. A link to a bug report, documentation, etc. would go a long way towards improving it. I don't believe this answer should be used as a review audit in its current form.

Other stuff

I'm curious about what triggers a review suspension. Does the ratio of failed audits to passed audits or overall reviews factor in at all?

I'm quite active in the review queues, having done something like 400 reviews since that first failed review two weeks ago on the 28th. But it looks like a person who fails two audits out of 400 reviews is treated the same as somebody who fails two audits out of two reviews.

Should it work that way? Maybe. But as somebody who spends a lot of time doing housekeeping on this site, I can say failing audits like that second one (and especially being suspended¹ over it) is very discouraging. I'm about ready to stop contributing.

(I would really like a way to flag bad audits that doesn't require me to write an entire blog post like this, but that's a matter for Meta Stack Exchange.)

(Please excuse any errors referencing text on the review modals. I can't see them at the moment due to my suspension.)


¹Full disclosure: I was previously suspended for failing review audits in the first questions queue. That suspension was quickly lifted after the audits were deemed to be poor.

Edit: Reading the comments it's clear that some folks see this as a high-rep user whining. I don't really care about getting the suspension lifted. It's just for two days.

I do think the discussion around poor quality review audits is important. Should "leave feedback" lead to a failed audit on a "good" post? Should there be a way to report bad audits? Should the failure ratio count instead of just the failure count?

Maybe I need to turn these into discussion / feature requests posts on m.se.


I have just been suspended from reviewing based on what I believe to be poor review audits:

Screenshot of "you've been suspended" message

On the first one

This is clearly a bad answer and I don't remember exactly how I failed that audit. It was a while ago, and the only information I can see now is that I "reviewed" it.

I believe I downvoted the post, upvoted the comment that highlights part of the problem, forgot to flag, and then used the "performed another action" option. Since votes aren't actually kept on audit questions I can't look for orange buttons to be sure.

In and of itself, it's frustrating that this leads to a failed audit. Yes, a VLQ flag would have been warranted but the actions I took both signaled in the right direction.

Is forgetting to flag really worth failing an audit over? Maybe.

On the second one

I used the "share feedback" option, intending to use the canned comment that asks for supporting information.

The entire text of that answer is:

For those who do have this problem using Visual Studio 2022: switch back to 2019 as it doesn't work yet in the new version.

I don't think this is a very good answer. A link to a bug report, documentation, etc. would go a long way towards improving it. I don't believe this answer should be used as a review audit in its current form.

Other stuff

I'm curious about what triggers a review suspension. Does the ratio of failed audits to passed audits or overall reviews factor in at all?

I'm quite active in the review queues, having done something like 400 reviews since that first failed review two weeks ago on the 28th. But it looks like a person who fails two audits out of 400 reviews is treated the same as somebody who fails two audits out of two reviews.

Should it work that way? Maybe. But as somebody who spends a lot of time doing housekeeping on this site, I can say failing audits like that second one (and especially being suspended¹ over it) is very discouraging. I'm about ready to stop contributing.

(I would really like a way to flag bad audits that doesn't require me to write an entire blog post like this, but that's a matter for Meta Stack Exchange.)

(Please excuse any errors referencing text on the review modals. I can't see them at the moment due to my suspension.)


¹Full disclosure: I was previously suspended for failing review audits in the first questions queue. That suspension was quickly lifted after the audits were deemed to be poor.

Edit: Reading the comments it's clear that some folks see this as a high-rep user whining. I don't really care about getting the suspension lifted. It's just for two days.

But maybe that second post shouldn't be used for review audits moving forward.

And I do think the discussion around poor quality review audits is important. Should "leave feedback" lead to a failed audit on a "good" post? Should there be a way to report bad audits? Should the failure ratio count instead of just the failure count?

Maybe I need to turn these into discussion / feature requests posts on m.se.


I have just been suspended from reviewing based on what I believe to be poor review audits:

Screenshot of "you've been suspended" message

On the first one

This is clearly a bad answer and I don't remember exactly how I failed that audit. It was a while ago, and the only information I can see now is that I "reviewed" it.

I believe I downvoted the post, upvoted the comment that highlights part of the problem, forgot to flag, and then used the "performed another action" option. Since votes aren't actually kept on audit questions I can't look for orange buttons to be sure.

In and of itself, it's frustrating that this leads to a failed audit. Yes, a VLQ flag would have been warranted but the actions I took both signaled in the right direction.

Is forgetting to flag really worth failing an audit over? Maybe.

On the second one

I used the "share feedback" option, intending to use the canned comment that asks for supporting information.

The entire text of that answer is:

For those who do have this problem using Visual Studio 2022: switch back to 2019 as it doesn't work yet in the new version.

I don't think this is a very good answer. A link to a bug report, documentation, etc. would go a long way towards improving it. I don't believe this answer should be used as a review audit in its current form.

Other stuff

I'm curious about what triggers a review suspension. Does the ratio of failed audits to passed audits or overall reviews factor in at all?

I'm quite active in the review queues, having done something like 400 reviews since that first failed review two weeks ago on the 28th. But it looks like a person who fails two audits out of 400 reviews is treated the same as somebody who fails two audits out of two reviews.

Should it work that way? Maybe. But as somebody who spends a lot of time doing housekeeping on this site, I can say failing audits like that second one (and especially being suspended¹ over it) is very discouraging. I'm about ready to stop contributing.

(I would really like a way to flag bad audits that doesn't require me to write an entire blog post like this, but that's a matter for Meta Stack Exchange.)

(Please excuse any errors referencing text on the review modals. I can't see them at the moment due to my suspension.)


¹Full disclosure: I was previously suspended for failing review audits in the first questions queue. That suspension was quickly lifted after the audits were deemed to be poor.

Try to refocus the conversation
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Edit: Reading the comments it's clear that some folks see this as a high-rep user whining. I don't really care about getting the suspension lifted. It's just for two days.

I do think the discussion around poor quality review audits is important. Should "leave feedback" lead to a failed audit on a "good" post? Should there be a way to report bad audits? Should the failure ratio count instead of just the failure count?

Maybe I need to turn these into discussion / feature requests posts on m.se.


I have just been suspended from reviewing based on what I believe to be poor review audits:

Screenshot of "you've been suspended" message

On the first one

This is clearly a bad answer and I don't remember exactly how I failed that audit. It was a while ago, and the only information I can see now is that I "reviewed" it.

I believe I downvoted the post, upvoted the comment that highlights part of the problem, forgot to flag, and then used the "performed another action" option. Since votes aren't actually kept on audit questions I can't look for orange buttons to be sure.

In and of itself, it's frustrating that this leads to a failed audit. Yes, a VLQ flag would have been warranted but the actions I took both signaled in the right direction.

Is forgetting to flag really worth failing an audit over? Maybe.

On the second one

I used the "share feedback" option, intending to use the canned comment that asks for supporting information.

The entire text of that answer is:

For those who do have this problem using Visual Studio 2022: switch back to 2019 as it doesn't work yet in the new version.

I don't think this is a very good answer. A link to a bug report, documentation, etc. would go a long way towards improving it. I don't believe this answer should be used as a review audit in its current form.

Other stuff

I'm curious about what triggers a review suspension. Does the ratio of failed audits to passed audits or overall reviews factor in at all?

I'm quite active in the review queues, having done something like 400 reviews since that first failed review two weeks ago on the 28th. But it looks like a person who fails two audits out of 400 reviews is treated the same as somebody who fails two audits out of two reviews.

Should it work that way? Maybe. But as somebody who spends a lot of time doing housekeeping on this site, I can say failing audits like that second one (and especially being suspended¹ over it) is very discouraging. I'm about ready to stop contributing.

(I would really like a way to flag bad audits that doesn't require me to write an entire blog post like this, but that's a matter for Meta Stack Exchange.)

(Please excuse any errors referencing text on the review modals. I can't see them at the moment due to my suspension.)


¹Full disclosure: I was previously suspended for failing review audits in the first questions queue. That suspension was quickly lifted after the audits were deemed to be poor.

I have just been suspended from reviewing based on what I believe to be poor review audits:

Screenshot of "you've been suspended" message

On the first one

This is clearly a bad answer and I don't remember exactly how I failed that audit. It was a while ago, and the only information I can see now is that I "reviewed" it.

I believe I downvoted the post, upvoted the comment that highlights part of the problem, forgot to flag, and then used the "performed another action" option. Since votes aren't actually kept on audit questions I can't look for orange buttons to be sure.

In and of itself, it's frustrating that this leads to a failed audit. Yes, a VLQ flag would have been warranted but the actions I took both signaled in the right direction.

Is forgetting to flag really worth failing an audit over? Maybe.

On the second one

I used the "share feedback" option, intending to use the canned comment that asks for supporting information.

The entire text of that answer is:

For those who do have this problem using Visual Studio 2022: switch back to 2019 as it doesn't work yet in the new version.

I don't think this is a very good answer. A link to a bug report, documentation, etc. would go a long way towards improving it. I don't believe this answer should be used as a review audit in its current form.

Other stuff

I'm curious about what triggers a review suspension. Does the ratio of failed audits to passed audits or overall reviews factor in at all?

I'm quite active in the review queues, having done something like 400 reviews since that first failed review two weeks ago on the 28th. But it looks like a person who fails two audits out of 400 reviews is treated the same as somebody who fails two audits out of two reviews.

Should it work that way? Maybe. But as somebody who spends a lot of time doing housekeeping on this site, I can say failing audits like that second one (and especially being suspended¹ over it) is very discouraging. I'm about ready to stop contributing.

(I would really like a way to flag bad audits that doesn't require me to write an entire blog post like this, but that's a matter for Meta Stack Exchange.)

(Please excuse any errors referencing text on the review modals. I can't see them at the moment due to my suspension.)


¹Full disclosure: I was previously suspended for failing review audits in the first questions queue. That suspension was quickly lifted after the audits were deemed to be poor.

Edit: Reading the comments it's clear that some folks see this as a high-rep user whining. I don't really care about getting the suspension lifted. It's just for two days.

I do think the discussion around poor quality review audits is important. Should "leave feedback" lead to a failed audit on a "good" post? Should there be a way to report bad audits? Should the failure ratio count instead of just the failure count?

Maybe I need to turn these into discussion / feature requests posts on m.se.


I have just been suspended from reviewing based on what I believe to be poor review audits:

Screenshot of "you've been suspended" message

On the first one

This is clearly a bad answer and I don't remember exactly how I failed that audit. It was a while ago, and the only information I can see now is that I "reviewed" it.

I believe I downvoted the post, upvoted the comment that highlights part of the problem, forgot to flag, and then used the "performed another action" option. Since votes aren't actually kept on audit questions I can't look for orange buttons to be sure.

In and of itself, it's frustrating that this leads to a failed audit. Yes, a VLQ flag would have been warranted but the actions I took both signaled in the right direction.

Is forgetting to flag really worth failing an audit over? Maybe.

On the second one

I used the "share feedback" option, intending to use the canned comment that asks for supporting information.

The entire text of that answer is:

For those who do have this problem using Visual Studio 2022: switch back to 2019 as it doesn't work yet in the new version.

I don't think this is a very good answer. A link to a bug report, documentation, etc. would go a long way towards improving it. I don't believe this answer should be used as a review audit in its current form.

Other stuff

I'm curious about what triggers a review suspension. Does the ratio of failed audits to passed audits or overall reviews factor in at all?

I'm quite active in the review queues, having done something like 400 reviews since that first failed review two weeks ago on the 28th. But it looks like a person who fails two audits out of 400 reviews is treated the same as somebody who fails two audits out of two reviews.

Should it work that way? Maybe. But as somebody who spends a lot of time doing housekeeping on this site, I can say failing audits like that second one (and especially being suspended¹ over it) is very discouraging. I'm about ready to stop contributing.

(I would really like a way to flag bad audits that doesn't require me to write an entire blog post like this, but that's a matter for Meta Stack Exchange.)

(Please excuse any errors referencing text on the review modals. I can't see them at the moment due to my suspension.)


¹Full disclosure: I was previously suspended for failing review audits in the first questions queue. That suspension was quickly lifted after the audits were deemed to be poor.

Tweak "again" since it gives the wrong impression if folks don't follow the link
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Suspended from reviewing due to questionable audits, again

I have (again¹) just been suspended from reviewing based on what I believe to be poor review audits:

Screenshot of "you've been suspended" message

On the first one

This is clearly a bad answer and I don't remember exactly how I failed that audit. It was a while ago, and the only information I can see now is that I "reviewed" it.

I believe I downvoted the post, upvoted the comment that highlights part of the problem, forgot to flag, and then used the "performed another action" option. Since votes aren't actually kept on audit questions I can't look for orange buttons to be sure.

In and of itself, it's frustrating that this leads to a failed audit. Yes, a VLQ flag would have been warranted but the actions I took both signaled in the right direction.

Is forgetting to flag really worth failing an audit over? Maybe.

On the second one

I used the "share feedback" option, intending to use the canned comment that asks for supporting information.

The entire text of that answer is:

For those who do have this problem using Visual Studio 2022: switch back to 2019 as it doesn't work yet in the new version.

I don't think this is a very good answer. A link to a bug report, documentation, etc. would go a long way towards improving it. I don't believe this answer should be used as a review audit in its current form.

Other stuff

I'm curious about what triggers a review suspension. Does the ratio of failed audits to passed audits or overall reviews factor in at all?

I'm quite active in the review queues, having done something like 400 reviews since that first failed review two weeks ago on the 28th. But it looks like a person who fails two audits out of 400 reviews is treated the same as somebody who fails two audits out of two reviews.

Should it work that way? Maybe. But as somebody who spends a lot of time doing housekeeping on this site, I can say failing audits like that second one (and especially being suspendedsuspended¹ over it) is very discouraging. I'm about ready to stop contributing.

(I would really like a way to flag bad audits that doesn't require me to write an entire blog post like this, but that's a matter for Meta Stack Exchange.)

(Please excuse any errors referencing text on the review modals. I can't see them at the moment due to my suspension.)


¹I¹Full disclosure: I was previously suspended for failing review audits in the first questions queue. That suspension was quickly lifted after the audits were deemed to be poor.

Suspended from reviewing due to questionable audits, again

I have (again¹) just been suspended from reviewing based on what I believe to be poor review audits:

Screenshot of "you've been suspended" message

On the first one

This is clearly a bad answer and I don't remember exactly how I failed that audit. It was a while ago, and the only information I can see now is that I "reviewed" it.

I believe I downvoted the post, upvoted the comment that highlights part of the problem, forgot to flag, and then used the "performed another action" option. Since votes aren't actually kept on audit questions I can't look for orange buttons to be sure.

In and of itself, it's frustrating that this leads to a failed audit. Yes, a VLQ flag would have been warranted but the actions I took both signaled in the right direction.

Is forgetting to flag really worth failing an audit over? Maybe.

On the second one

I used the "share feedback" option, intending to use the canned comment that asks for supporting information.

The entire text of that answer is:

For those who do have this problem using Visual Studio 2022: switch back to 2019 as it doesn't work yet in the new version.

I don't think this is a very good answer. A link to a bug report, documentation, etc. would go a long way towards improving it. I don't believe this answer should be used as a review audit in its current form.

Other stuff

I'm curious about what triggers a review suspension. Does the ratio of failed audits to passed audits or overall reviews factor in at all?

I'm quite active in the review queues, having done something like 400 reviews since that first failed review two weeks ago on the 28th. But it looks like a person who fails two audits out of 400 reviews is treated the same as somebody who fails two audits out of two reviews.

Should it work that way? Maybe. But as somebody who spends a lot of time doing housekeeping on this site, I can say failing audits like that second one (and especially being suspended over it) is very discouraging. I'm about ready to stop contributing.

(I would really like a way to flag bad audits that doesn't require me to write an entire blog post like this, but that's a matter for Meta Stack Exchange.)

(Please excuse any errors referencing text on the review modals. I can't see them at the moment due to my suspension.)


¹I was previously suspended for failing review audits in the first questions queue. That suspension was lifted after the audits were deemed to be poor.

Suspended from reviewing due to questionable audits

I have just been suspended from reviewing based on what I believe to be poor review audits:

Screenshot of "you've been suspended" message

On the first one

This is clearly a bad answer and I don't remember exactly how I failed that audit. It was a while ago, and the only information I can see now is that I "reviewed" it.

I believe I downvoted the post, upvoted the comment that highlights part of the problem, forgot to flag, and then used the "performed another action" option. Since votes aren't actually kept on audit questions I can't look for orange buttons to be sure.

In and of itself, it's frustrating that this leads to a failed audit. Yes, a VLQ flag would have been warranted but the actions I took both signaled in the right direction.

Is forgetting to flag really worth failing an audit over? Maybe.

On the second one

I used the "share feedback" option, intending to use the canned comment that asks for supporting information.

The entire text of that answer is:

For those who do have this problem using Visual Studio 2022: switch back to 2019 as it doesn't work yet in the new version.

I don't think this is a very good answer. A link to a bug report, documentation, etc. would go a long way towards improving it. I don't believe this answer should be used as a review audit in its current form.

Other stuff

I'm curious about what triggers a review suspension. Does the ratio of failed audits to passed audits or overall reviews factor in at all?

I'm quite active in the review queues, having done something like 400 reviews since that first failed review two weeks ago on the 28th. But it looks like a person who fails two audits out of 400 reviews is treated the same as somebody who fails two audits out of two reviews.

Should it work that way? Maybe. But as somebody who spends a lot of time doing housekeeping on this site, I can say failing audits like that second one (and especially being suspended¹ over it) is very discouraging. I'm about ready to stop contributing.

(I would really like a way to flag bad audits that doesn't require me to write an entire blog post like this, but that's a matter for Meta Stack Exchange.)

(Please excuse any errors referencing text on the review modals. I can't see them at the moment due to my suspension.)


¹Full disclosure: I was previously suspended for failing review audits in the first questions queue. That suspension was quickly lifted after the audits were deemed to be poor.

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