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Oct 5, 2021 at 17:29 comment added Philippe StaffMod FWIW - we're releasing an article tool (probably Q4) that will allow community members to write, edit, and submit articles (to answer your bullet points at the bottom). Thanks for the detailed feedback - very very useful.
Oct 5, 2021 at 17:22 comment added Braiam "If the question is inside the site scope (i.e. on-topic) it's valid" it's interesting that the site scope explicitly includes "practical programming questions" and this answer seems to forget about it when it goes into their arguments. That is the minimum standards that SO has set: a practical, answerable problem that is unique to software development.
Oct 5, 2021 at 16:36 comment added samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz "I fail to see how docs was used as a learning tool for this" -- at least they did not bring back these super-distracting blinking blue dots from documentation.
Oct 5, 2021 at 16:11 comment added NoDataDumpNoContribution "If an Article needs an Edit, how do I submit one?" The current suggested way is giving feedback either privately or publicly (I do publicly because I don't want other to waste their time and give the same feedback). The feedback could contain a description of a suggested edit. After the edit, the feedback can be removed. Simply suggesting an edit like for those below 2k rep would probably be easier though.
Oct 5, 2021 at 16:08 comment added NoDataDumpNoContribution "If I think I can write a good Article, how do I submit one for review and approval?" Not sure what you want to hear there? There will be a button somewhere and you'll probably press it? You probably have to be member of the collective and there will be a review queue for that somewhere.
Oct 5, 2021 at 16:04 comment added NoDataDumpNoContribution "minimal standards" Some of the existing articles are ok with regard to standards, it looks rather like most of potential Article content creators are too scared or not interested in contributing currently. There is such a small number of articles existing, I'm not even sure that relevant conclusion can be drawn from them. "How does the Community request an article? If I see a need for an article, how can I get them to write one?" We could maybe vote on requests, like for example voting on questions in Q&A.
Oct 5, 2021 at 15:42 comment added Kevin B I mean... i fail to see how docs was used as a learning tool for this... the same mistake occurred. Articles were launched with no clearly defined goals, with the intent to build guidelines based on how the community used/reacted to them. Exactly like documentation. Yes, at least the rep disaster wasn't brought forward, however that was only prevented by not letting the community use it.
Oct 5, 2021 at 15:39 comment added Jeanne Dark Articles probably shouldn't have any effect on SO reputation. It doesn't make sense that you'd gain privileges to moderate content on the SO Q&A platform by contributing to something outside of it.
Oct 5, 2021 at 15:23 comment added Machavity Mod @Nick Maybe they did. I didn't follow Collectives that closely. I know they patched it to allow CMs to delete Articles
Oct 5, 2021 at 15:20 comment added 0Valt @Machavity - oh, I do not mean that they should've gone with this guns blazing, I am just highly unsure that this "modesty" is an actual concern about the feature well-being and by now am pretty convinced that all community-related parts of the Collectives and, by extension, articles were an afterthought at best. Why do you think even mods (unless you know something I don't) are extremely limited in moderating those too?
Oct 5, 2021 at 15:17 comment added Nick is tired "If an Article needs an Edit, how do I submit one? (protip: if you're a long time SO user, you can actually edit the Articles as-is if you know the structure of the site, but shhh, it's a secret)" - I thought they patched that backdoor, all the endpoints I'm aware of (which previously did work) just lead to 404s.
Oct 5, 2021 at 15:14 comment added Machavity Mod @OlegValter It's a Beta to that end. And I rather like having it be a limited one. Are mistakes being made? Yes. But, as Shog9 noted in the post I quoted, it's a good thing to fail and learn from those mistakes. Dealing with this when there's only three articles is vastly preferential to dealing with it when there's 3000
Oct 5, 2021 at 15:12 comment added 0Valt I hate to bring a sour note to this (as I otherwise agree with the answer's points), but can you honestly say that limiting articles to recognized members only was a conscious choice and did not naturally follow from the central idea of this whole "Collectives" thing - that is to give paying companies controlled spaces? Because this is the only thing I see behind this artificial limitation
Oct 5, 2021 at 14:53 comment added Ghost +1 for the secret but unfortunately, I'm not a long time SO user.
Oct 5, 2021 at 14:49 history answered MachavityMod CC BY-SA 4.0