Timeline for Help Stack Overflow Generate Revenue [closed]
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Sep 22, 2021 at 11:25 | history | edited | Peter Mortensen | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Active reading [<http://stackoverflow.com/legal/trademark-guidance> (the last section)]. Added some context. Expanded.
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Sep 21, 2021 at 19:54 | comment | added | Travis J | SO will be sold to Google in a few years, so no need to worry about longevity or paywalls... | |
Sep 21, 2021 at 18:17 | comment | added | 0Valt | As one of the "red menace" folks around here I can only say this too - the second SO becomes a paid service I am out of here. And will make sure the recommendation it gets if anyone asks me if this is a good service is scathing. The company may be a necessary evil as others pointed out (although that is not a given, we are just lead to believe this is the only way), and as long as the service itself stays free and open to everyone, it at least helps out developers around the world in need for a quick reference. The instant this is paywalled, everything that's good about SO goes poof. | |
Sep 21, 2021 at 16:34 | history | closed |
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Sep 21, 2021 at 14:00 | answer | added | VLAZ | timeline score: 5 | |
Sep 21, 2021 at 13:44 | comment | added | Cerbrus | "there would be fewer crap questions if the user paid to post them." There sure would be, as no one would be stupid enough to pay to volunteer their time to help someone. | |
Sep 21, 2021 at 13:44 | comment | added | Gimby | "SO will eventually become too expensive to run on a commercial basis and it will be shut down" - yes that's why the company was bought not too long ago, because the new investors are morons that buy a sinking ship :) No all signs point towards the fact that Stack is doing just fine financially and has growth potential. I'll give you that the investors will want their money back though, so we'll definitely see more SO-related products to come out to pull more income from the brand name. It is out of our hands entirely, I am not even going to bother thinking about it. | |
Sep 21, 2021 at 13:35 | comment | added | Software Engineer | @Larnu -- the answers given here are copyrighted too. The books, and the answers here, are not usually meant to be copied literally. They're meant to help you understand the problem you're facing and the solution to it. Copying answers usually results in a lot of editing to force that code into your own, given that variable names are often changed for simplicity and models of usually simplified to focus on the issue. | |
Sep 21, 2021 at 13:34 | comment | added | Software Engineer | I've just checked your profile and it says that you have contributed 192 answers over the past nearly 12 years. Your contributions would be sorely missed. Mine was an off the cuff suggestion to start the discussion anyway and is not really likely to be implemented, but I think its a shame that you feel this way. | |
Sep 21, 2021 at 13:33 | comment | added | Thom A | @SoftwareEngineer Many books are copyrighted; they cannot be reproduced due to said copyright. If you did, they would be illegal... You're comparing apples and oranges there. | |
Sep 21, 2021 at 13:33 | comment | added | TylerH | @SoftwareEngineer it is currently trivial to avoid that form of "paying" by using an adblocker like uBlock Origin (or a physical device like a PiHole on your network). | |
Sep 21, 2021 at 13:31 | comment | added | TylerH | A donate button | |
Sep 21, 2021 at 13:28 | comment | added | Software Engineer | @Patrice -- I think that you're paying to read medium, through advertising, and there's no guarantee that the content is good. You're paying to watch YouTube, again through advertising, and the content is often awful. At youtube, if the content is awful and the creator doesn't get paid, there will still be ads so google gets 100% of the revenue for unpopular crap. But you as a user are still paying whether its crap or not. | |
Sep 21, 2021 at 13:25 | comment | added | Software Engineer | @Cerbrus -- it's possible that it would cut out a portion of the rubbish questions we get here. I wouldn't know unless we could experiment with it, but my feeling is that there would be fewer crap questions if the user paid to post them. | |
Sep 21, 2021 at 13:24 | comment | added | Software Engineer | @Larnu -- does a book publisher indemnify you for applying the things you read in a book? Does the author? Why would you expect more from someone trying to help you when you're stuck just because you had to pay a little bit? Are you indemnified by your internet service provider for the fake news you read? This is a silly argument. | |
Sep 21, 2021 at 13:21 | comment | added | Software Engineer | Trolls aside, youtube does ok from a revenue-sharing model funded by advertising and it's still one of the most popular sites in the world where even simple views are being monetised through advertising. I use SO professionally, so I have no problem with a paywall for full use and I've advocated (and been downvoted for suggesting) that this become a purely professional service in the past. I think it would have an impact on q/a quality but arguments could be made on either side of the enrichment/impoverishment debate that could only be answered through experimentation. | |
Sep 21, 2021 at 12:01 | comment | added | Security Hound | The millisecond Stack Exchange charges for content is a millisecond after I start to replace my 1.5K answers with garbage. I provided answers for free, I wouldn’t pay $0.0 for some of the garage answers I see in the review queue, let alone actual money for them | |
Sep 21, 2021 at 11:47 | comment | added | Cerbrus | What makes you think the content would be better? | |
Sep 21, 2021 at 11:38 | comment | added | Software Engineer | @khelwood - but that's what we've got. The benefit to us is the content. | |
Sep 21, 2021 at 11:19 | comment | added | khelwood | A corporation sitting on top of the site trying to make money off people's unpaid contributions may be a necessary evil, but I'm certainly not inclined to try and help it make money better. | |
Sep 21, 2021 at 11:14 | comment | added | Thom A | If I did have to pay for answers (I would have no intention of ever do so mind), would the user/SO also therefore be responsible for any damages that code I paid to copy caused, such as security vulnerabilities it has? And let's not even get onto the fact that there would need to be a huge licence change on the site, as cc by-sa does not work on pay-walled content by definition. | |
Sep 21, 2021 at 10:54 | comment | added | Patrice | It can be done, but do you have an idea where you find moderators to make sure everything on the site is properly, 100% curated? Cause to Jeanne's point, if I'm paying for answers, they better be damn good | |
Sep 21, 2021 at 10:53 | comment | added | Andrew T. | @DalijaPrasnikar since this topic is about generating revenues, regardless of what we think about Collective's value, we still don't know if other organizations are still interested to participate. Heck, even sponsored tags are still a thing. | |
Sep 21, 2021 at 10:49 | comment | added | Dalija Prasnikar Mod | @AndrewT. Collectives were pretty much dead on arrival. If the Google or some other company are willing to pay for branding - having some logo on questions is one thing, but beyond that there is no value there. | |
Sep 21, 2021 at 9:59 | answer | added | Thom A | timeline score: 16 | |
Sep 21, 2021 at 9:53 | comment | added | Jeanne Dark | "Pay per answer or subscription." If you read an answer like "I have a new question...?", "I have the same problem. Did you find a solution?", "Thanks! The second answer solved my problem.", "Have a look at this great [article](dead link). It will answer all your questions!", how much would you have to pay? | |
Sep 21, 2021 at 9:53 | comment | added | Andrew T. | ... and is SE really in danger, while they seem prepared to also drop SO Jobs? | |
Sep 21, 2021 at 9:50 | comment | added | Andrew T. | "The ridiculous "Collectives" idea has crashed and burnt (as it was obviously always going to do) because the new commercial owners of the property don't understand the community." isn't it too quick to jump to that conclusion? | |
Sep 21, 2021 at 9:48 | comment | added | Damien | In my understanding, the value of a site is proportional to the number of visitors. And you want to prevent people to visit it ... | |
Sep 21, 2021 at 9:35 | comment | added | Thom A | It seems like dumb question, but are you sure that Stack Overflow is really struggling that much for revenue? According to this blog post they "booked $70m in revenue last year [2018]"; I would be very surprised if that figure has substantially dropped since then, and in truth would have expected it to have grown. | |
Sep 21, 2021 at 9:30 | comment | added | Thom A | @Cerbrus if those lootboxes don't contain hats, I'm out. All good lootboxes in games contain hats. | |
Sep 21, 2021 at 9:28 | comment | added | VLAZ | @Cerbrus so THAT is why the responsive UI is being kicked off, so everybody can use SO on their phones! | |
Sep 21, 2021 at 9:27 | comment | added | VLAZ | "Me? I'd charge for entrance. Free if you read fewer than, say, 5 answers a day. Pay per answer or subscription." amazing ideas if we don't want people to use SO. However, it doesn't mesh well with the whole "high quality repository" thing we want to have. After all, if a high quality repository is not used, then is it really high quality and does it matter? | |
Sep 21, 2021 at 9:17 | comment | added | Cerbrus | Yea, and we could add lootboxes for new skins! We also need StackOverflowImmortal, because everyone has phones! | |
Sep 21, 2021 at 9:15 | review | Close votes | |||
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Sep 21, 2021 at 9:01 | answer | added | Dalija PrasnikarMod | timeline score: 34 | |
Sep 21, 2021 at 9:01 | comment | added | Sebastian Simon | Related: What is Stack Overflow's business model?. | |
Sep 21, 2021 at 9:01 | history | edited | Sebastian Simon |
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Sep 21, 2021 at 8:52 | history | asked | Software Engineer | CC BY-SA 4.0 |