Timeline for Is a link to the "How to ask" help page a useful comment?
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Sep 10, 2021 at 12:02 | comment | added | CodeCaster | Yes, I know terrible questions get asked every minute. My point is that no comment, or any comment, really, is better than just dumping that link. If they couldn't be bothered reading how to ask a good question before asking such an atrocious question, why do you think they will after getting just a link to that page? I think that just dumping that link does more harm than good. They will get to it, eventually, for example from the close message. | |
Sep 10, 2021 at 11:45 | comment | added | 4386427 | Example: stackoverflow.com/questions/69131381/… | |
Sep 10, 2021 at 11:43 | comment | added | 4386427 | Example: A question with an exact dump of a homework assignment followed by "I tried several thinks but it doesn't work - why?" Again: If the "How to ask" page doesn't make it clear to OP "what is missing" then the problem is the "How to ask" page. | |
Sep 10, 2021 at 11:41 | comment | added | 4386427 | Example: Title: "Problems with C code". Question: 80 lines of code followed by the text line "My code isn't working - why?". That's one type of question we see every day in the C tag. If the "How to ask" page doesn't make it clear to OP "what is missing" then the problem is the "How to ask" page. | |
Sep 10, 2021 at 11:32 | comment | added | CodeCaster | To you, an experienced user, it's clear what's missing from such questions. To the one asking it is not. You cannot recognize what you don't know, not even if it's mentioned somewhere, maybe even cryptically, in a three page document. Again, that page is a great starting point, but if a user doesn't get it right, it's up to other users to educate them what they got wrong. If users don't want to do that, users should move along and definitely not drop a useless link and pat themselves on the shoulder for being helpful. | |
Sep 10, 2021 at 11:23 | comment | added | 4386427 | and that's exactly where we disagree. IMO a link to a "How to ask" should be helpful for questions that doesn't even fulfil the basics. I don't think we can get this further than agree to disagree. Have a nice day. | |
Sep 10, 2021 at 10:51 | comment | added | CodeCaster | No, it is not. It is nothing better than literally posting a comment "You're doing it wrong". Again, if you can't post constructive criticism pinpointing exactly how OP could improve their post, you post nothing, optionally exercise your voting rights, and move on. | |
Sep 10, 2021 at 10:49 | comment | added | 4386427 | okay... and I'm saying that there are many many poor question on SO that don't even have the basic parts of "asking a question" in place. For those question a link only is fine IMO. | |
Sep 10, 2021 at 10:45 | history | edited | CodeCaster | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Sep 10, 2021 at 10:45 | comment | added | CodeCaster | I am not saying that page is not worth linking to, I'm saying it is not useful to only drop a link to it. | |
Sep 10, 2021 at 10:41 | comment | added | 4386427 | I do not claim that it's easy to write a good help page. But saying "Our help page is not worth to link - don't borther" is IMO not the way to go | |
Sep 10, 2021 at 10:35 | comment | added | CodeCaster | Dozens of users have proven to be incapable of writing one readable answer to "What is a NullReferenceException?", so I highly doubt it is possible to write a comprehensible page explaining everything that can be wrong with a question, especially given there are hundreds of thousands of opinions on what is considered "wrong". | |
Sep 10, 2021 at 10:25 | comment | added | 4386427 | Assuming a well written "How to ask" then that should be obvious in most cases. Maybe it currently isn't and need to be fixed. | |
Sep 10, 2021 at 10:12 | comment | added | CodeCaster | It is a great starting point for learning to write a question. It does not answer "What is wrong with my question?". It is not helpful in that scenario. | |
Sep 10, 2021 at 10:07 | comment | added | 4386427 | ".. the not-so-helpful how-to-ask page..." If so the help page must be fixed instead of saying: Don't link to it. The reason for having a help page is ... to help. | |
Sep 10, 2021 at 7:25 | history | answered | CodeCaster | CC BY-SA 4.0 |