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Sep 10, 2021 at 16:13 comment added Makoto @E_net4thevoter: But also too I'm not in the mood to reward Stack Overflow Inc's sudden yet wholly anticipated disconnectedness on making changes to the site as a means to allow this feature request to continue forward.
Sep 10, 2021 at 16:12 comment added Makoto @E_net4thevoter: To be honest with you, I tend to just ignore and/or flag comments that directly attack why I downvoted something. I don't generally leave any way for anyone to directly send me a message asking for an explanation as to why this happened, since I saw from others that this only invites discourse. My perspective is shockingly simple - once you accept that people dislike downvotes and will try to argue with you about them, the idea of doing something about it becomes simpler.
Sep 10, 2021 at 15:55 comment added E_net4 An aggregate metric doesn't need to fully unmask a voting incident to invite inappropriate speculation. Moreover, the proposal doesn't prevent these metrics from being collected through SEDE, should one really care that much. The only legitimate use case brought up so far was to assess candidates for moderator.
Sep 10, 2021 at 15:29 comment added Makoto @yivi: Voting itself is still anonymous - you can't get precise info about what you voted for. Voting as an aggregate statistic is still something that should be widely visible to a community so that the community can really see how well it's doing on one of the key things it needs to do - curation.
Sep 10, 2021 at 15:27 comment added Makoto @yivi: While spelunking the blog the other night to politely remind others about some well-established conventions, this particular blog entry about making it public to begin with came across my eye. To refute your chief argument: it is no anomaly. And sure, there's an argument to be made about voting anonymity and the like, but neither the OP nor you provide cases to demonstrate where the system intentionally unmasks you for downvoting.
Sep 10, 2021 at 8:48 comment added yivi Vehemence aside, this answer makes no attempt to say why we need this counters at all (for regular users). What benefit do they bring. That they exist is an anomaly, it makes the shield of anonymity of voting less protective. We have anonymous voting so users do not hold back on voting. This counters does not help into that purpose. Why retain it?
Sep 10, 2021 at 7:10 comment added E_net4 @Makoto But that is precisely why regular users don't need it, and can be made hidden.
Sep 10, 2021 at 4:27 history edited Braiam CC BY-SA 4.0
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Sep 9, 2021 at 21:47 comment added Makoto @E_net4thevoter: I'm saying that you don't use the vote counts to determine an odd voting pattern.
Sep 9, 2021 at 21:29 comment added E_net4 The argument on point 1 doesn't sound coherent. Yes, regular users can play a role in finding and reporting suspicious patterns through flagging. My point is that the total vote count is hardly a good signal for this. On the other points, I guess we'll just agree to disagree.
Sep 9, 2021 at 21:01 comment added Dharman Mod No, but I hope it encouraged some users to downvote more.
Sep 9, 2021 at 21:01 comment added Makoto @Dharman: Probably didn't turn into a finger pointing match, did it?
Sep 9, 2021 at 20:57 comment added Dharman Mod We had a conversation in chat about the voting ratios just yesterday. It does happen naturally.
Sep 9, 2021 at 20:47 history answered Makoto CC BY-SA 4.0