Timeline for Not-an-answer flag declined on an answer that's clearly a comment on the programming language/CPU design, not an answer to any programming question
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Jul 20, 2021 at 16:24 | comment | added | gnat | @PeterCordes yes, this is exactly the point of that check. If the question asks for links, you leave the answer alone and instead, close (ideally - delete) the question. If the question doesn't ask for links, you proceed with NAA | |
Jul 20, 2021 at 16:12 | comment | added | Peter Cordes | @gnat: Questions that ask for links are almost always off topic ("request for off site resources"), and only allowed as a grandfather clause or because the community chooses to make an exception to the general rule and not enforce that rule in that case. So I think it's not a problem that NAA could be raised "more easily" on answers to such questions. (Also, IMO good answers to such questions will be more than just a link, e.g. Where is the x86-64 System V ABI documented? , although my own answer there is somewhat out of date, xD). | |
Jul 20, 2021 at 16:07 | comment | added | Peter Cordes | @chivracq: [assembly] / [sse] are not that low traffic (e.g. basically all of my 250k rep came from those tags) so no excuse there. And that's still not something we want to happen. I'd suggest that it would have been better to "farm" some rep by posting an answer to a new question in some more popular tag you know something about, instead of abusing the system for years. | |
Jul 20, 2021 at 16:04 | comment | added | gnat | safe bet for NAA flag is, it can be handled without looking at question. Link-only answers are special case though as these require one to check whether the question asks for links or not. Things would probably work differently if we had 300 moderators instead of 30 but I doubt that folks would be happy to have that many elections and share their PII with that many users | |
Jul 20, 2021 at 14:34 | comment | added | chivracq | @Cody, "completely irrelevant" + "are not allowed", yeah well..., maybe for 10K+ High-Rep Users who only know the "Dream World" of answering "large" Tags (for which the Site is designed), but the "Reality" is different when trying to answer small Tags with Low Qlt Qt's and mostly 1-Rep Users who "never" accept Answers nor upvote and where the 50-Rep Threshold for Comments is very high... (Took me 2 or 3 years to bypass it, and I didn't have any other "Choice" than to regularly (mis)use the 'Answer' Input Field in that time..., simply to ask the Asker to mention their Version for example...) | |
Jul 20, 2021 at 5:01 | comment | added | Cody Gray Mod | @chivracq That would be completely irrelevant. If something is posted as an answer which is not an answer, then it should be flagged for removal. Users without the requisite rep to post comments are not allowed to end-around that by posting the comments as answers. | |
Jul 18, 2021 at 22:00 | comment | added | Peter Cordes | @chivracq: Good idea, but the user had 60-something rep when I first flagged, and currently has 64. So not a total beginner. I don't want to link their profile on meta since I don't want to point fingers at someone for choosing to post it in the first place, but I can if you want to see it. | |
Jul 18, 2021 at 21:59 | comment | added | chivracq | Not mentioned and I can't check since the Answer has since "disappeared", but maybe the User didn't have the 50-Rep to be able to post Comments...? I've also "misused" the 'Answer' Input Fields to be able to post Comments in the Tag I answer at "the beginning", ... to later delete them myself anyway as only 5 "pending" Answers were allowed... - EDIT: Ah OK, I've seen your Reply @Peter... | |
Jul 18, 2021 at 16:21 | history | edited | Peter Cordes | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Jul 18, 2021 at 8:55 | comment | added | Peter Cordes | @Scratte: Apparently that's somewhat true, because I mistakenly assumed that most people could understand it as saying "It's too bad Intel didn't make it possible to do in one instruction like this hypothetical one". Which obviously doesn't rule out doing it in multiple instructions. I mean, I might not understand COBOL or Pascal, but I think I could tell when the syntax was showing a single operation or not, so I didn't think that people would have to actually know any asm, just have a rough idea of what asm looked like. I didn't consider that someone might think that could be multiple isns. | |
Jul 18, 2021 at 8:52 | answer | added | Cody GrayMod | timeline score: 28 | |
Jul 18, 2021 at 8:47 | comment | added | Scratte | If I read all this right, you know that this isn't an Answer because you know the technology, right? :) So for a moderator to know this, they'd have to know it too, no? Which makes the Answer not a straight up "Not an Answer", no? | |
Jul 18, 2021 at 8:46 | comment | added | Jeanne Dark | Note that NAA flags are often handled in bulk (eg. see this mod answer), so such types of answers are not well-suited for NAA flags. | |
Jul 18, 2021 at 8:40 | comment | added | Peter Cordes |
Most x86 instructions use 2 args, like add dst, src , but for any given instruction the arg count is fixed, so it's never a question of "using more args" anyway. If you need to do something the machine can't do in one instruction, you need to use multiple instructions (asm source lines). Assembly is assembled, not compiled, and every source line turns into (at most) one machine instruction. (modulo macros or db ... to manually encode multiple instructions, but x86 doesn't have pseudo-instructions the ways MIPS does, where li $v0, 65537 takes two machine instructions.)
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Jul 18, 2021 at 8:37 | comment | added | Peter Cordes |
@BhargavRao: Ok, understood. Allow me to correct your misunderstanding, then: That's that's not what the answer is saying, it's proposing a hypothetical 2-operand instruction which doesn't actually exist, but of the same form as mulpd xmm0, xmm1 which does xmm0 *= xmm1 (for both elements in parallel). The answer does not include any working code.
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Jul 18, 2021 at 8:28 | comment | added | Bhargav Rao Mod | I declined it because it seemed to me like, "It isn't possible with one instruction, this is how it could have been done <code sample using multiple args>" which is an answer. I still feel like it's just a bad answer, definitely worth deleting, but not sure if it warrants a NAA flag. I'll let the community decide on this. In any case, my apologies, that you had to go through the hassle of posting this meta. | |
Jul 18, 2021 at 7:03 | comment | added | Peter Cordes | @JeanneDark: Oh, to a question that was specifically asking for a single instruction? (Anything computable is possible using enough instructions). It wouldn't be a good or direct answer, but good thinking to find a question where it could fit, yes that's a possible explanation for what a mod might have been thinking. | |
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Jul 18, 2021 at 7:01 | comment | added | Jeanne Dark | Just a guess, but maybe this could be interpreted as a a "no, it's not possible" answer? | |
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Jul 18, 2021 at 4:22 | history | asked | Peter Cordes | CC BY-SA 4.0 |